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Last post 06-30-2013, 2:16 PM by Cigary. 29 replies.
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  • Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-20-2013, 12:06 PM

    Ocassionally at events and outings, there is a cigar roller who makes fresh rolled cigars. They are usually pretty wet.   What's the rule of thumb for smoking these?  Let them sit a bit before putting into humidor?  Smoke right away?  I usually don't enjoy smoking them ROTT (right off the table).
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-20-2013, 12:11 PM

    smoke them in a week or smoke them about a year out. there will probably be a "sick" period in the middle.

    the water added to apply the wrapper restarts a bit of fermentation and you can gert some off flavors until this is over.
    of course you can buy a box of them and smoke one right away and then smoke one a month for the next two years to really see what im talking about.
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  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-20-2013, 12:12 PM

    Depends on how they taste.

    If I know a cigar is wet, I'll dry box it for 24 hours.

    "It's a hell of a thing killin' a man. You take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." - Unforgiven
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-21-2013, 1:07 PM

    I love going to events where there is some torcedor rolling 'fresh' cigars and they are meant to smoke right then....they have such a great taste and you will discover a whole new experience with how they smoke and taste. If you buy a lot of them and want to smoke later then you really need to let them rest for at least a month or so because they will enter that "sick" period where ammonia will appear and it's not a pleasant experience to smoke them like that. Cigars will actually go through 2 sick periods...the first within the first month of being rolled and a second time after around 6 months so it's important to note the time/date of purchase as to when you want to enjoy them at their peak.
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-21-2013, 2:21 PM

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    Cigary:
    I love going to events where there is some torcedor rolling 'fresh' cigars and they are meant to smoke right then....they have such a great taste and you will discover a whole new experience with how they smoke and taste. If you buy a lot of them and want to smoke later then you really need to let them rest for at least a month or so because they will enter that "sick" period where ammonia will appear and it's not a pleasant experience to smoke them like that. Cigars will actually go through 2 sick periods...the first within the first month of being rolled and a second time after around 6 months so it's important to note the time/date of purchase as to when you want to enjoy them at their peak.
    Are cigars purchased at B&Ms and ccom expected to experience this ammonia sickness or are they already rested/aged enough to be beyond that sickness before we buy them?
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-21-2013, 3:58 PM

    I know many B&M owners around the country and I asked them all this question about the "sickness period" that cigars go through. Most of the owners are aware of this and put out product that has already gone through the initial period as most NC's have already been rested. Sometimes they will get 'new' product that isn't the usual brand name and they will sit on them for about 3 months at least before putting them on the shelf ( per the advisement of the brand owners ) as they want their cigars to be at their peak. Some cigars will go through a second sick period but usually it's not noticeable enough for the average consumer. I'm sure C.COM is equally responsible for ensuring that the products they sell are not ROTT unless they get a special purchase from the Vendor in which case the consumer should exercise discernment of what ROTT means...it's going to still go through it's first sick period so it's just a wise choice to let them sit in YOUR humidor to transition and adapt to it's new environment for at least a month. I know we all get pretty excited about our cigars and esp. the new ones because we read the reviews on them and want to have the same experience that others did. Wise cigar brothers will exercise patience so they can let the cigar marinate in a humidor that will ultimately give them that great cigar taste.
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     06-21-2013, 4:41 PM

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    So hard to be patient. And sometimes they seem fine when recently aquired and consumed. But some are dissapointing and I must remember that I'm not giving them a chance unless I wait. In my spare time I sometimes make up and apply little date labels according to my invoice dates. Gives me something to do while I'm being patient. LOL Oh yeah, I've got some older stuff I can smoke, but I want the new sticks.
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-22-2013, 8:17 AM

    Almost all non-Cuban manufacturers have aging rooms to get through the sick period. The only one I know for sure does not is padron. They stick to the Cuban tradition of packing and shipping without a rest period. Cigar.com and other retailers do not need to hold on to stock to get past the sick period. Unless otherwise noted, non-cuban cigars are not fresh rolled.
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  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-22-2013, 10:38 AM

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    kuzi16:
    Almost all non-Cuban manufacturers have aging rooms to get through the sick period. The only one I know for sure does not is padron. They stick to the Cuban tradition of packing and shipping without a rest period. Cigar.com and other retailers do not need to hold on to stock to get past the sick period. Unless otherwise noted, non-cuban cigars are not fresh rolled.
    I was hoping this was the case. Good to know. Thanks for the info. Speaking of padrons. Some of them have serial numbers. Can you check somewhere and find out how old the cigar is?
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-22-2013, 12:46 PM

    So hard to be patient is right...which is why I have so many cigars in the first place. I have plenty that I can smoke whatever I want because I started years ago with putting them into the 'resting' phase and I try and give any cigar at least a few months of rest. When I order cigars I put a "date" on it...I write on the end of the cello the date I received them...if they come naked I have my own band that I put on with a date. I do wish that cigars came with a BORN ON DATE but they don't in most cases so I put my received date on there myself. It's the new sticks you talked about...like the El Centurian by My Father...or the Herrera Esteli or the UF 13's and others that I want to smoke right now. (Hint....the El Centurians are in at Tampa Humidor)
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-22-2013, 1:00 PM

    Bob Luken:
    kuzi16:
    Almost all non-Cuban manufacturers have aging rooms to get through the sick period. The only one I know for sure does not is padron. They stick to the Cuban tradition of packing and shipping without a rest period. Cigar.com and other retailers do not need to hold on to stock to get past the sick period. Unless otherwise noted, non-cuban cigars are not fresh rolled.
    I was hoping this was the case. Good to know. Thanks for the info. Speaking of padrons. Some of them have serial numbers. Can you check somewhere and find out how old the cigar is?
    Full boxes have date slips inside of Padrons ...haven't bought a full box of the expensive ones in a long time but I do buy the singles.
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-22-2013, 5:37 PM

    Cigary:
    (Hint....the El Centurians are in at Tampa Humidor)
    probably shouldn't direct business away from cigar.com on cigar.com's forum.
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  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-22-2013, 6:00 PM

    kuzi16:
    Cigary:
    (Hint....the El Centurians are in at Tampa Humidor)
    probably shouldn't direct business away from cigar.com on cigar.com's forum.
    Not directing business away from them as they don't have any in stock...if they did I'd be buying them. If they don't stock them then what's a brother to do...isn't it a positive thing to do to let others know that a "sought after cigar" is available....if you see the tag line under the heading: Cigar.com ---a forum for cigar lovers Doesn't that mean what it says or is it implied that we can only talk about Cigar.com? Most of the questions or comments on this Forum range from "POT" to a host of other things .....so I'm pretty sure that we can talk about good deals out there that aren't offered through Cigar.com...which BTW is a great company.
  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-22-2013, 8:47 PM

    Cigary:
    kuzi16:
    Cigary:
    (Hint....the El Centurians are in at Tampa Humidor)
    probably shouldn't direct business away from cigar.com on cigar.com's forum.
    Not directing business away from them as they don't have any in stock...if they did I'd be buying them. If they don't stock them then what's a brother to do...isn't it a positive thing to do to let others know that a "sought after cigar" is available....if you see the tag line under the heading: Cigar.com ---a forum for cigar lovers Doesn't that mean what it says or is it implied that we can only talk about Cigar.com? Most of the questions or comments on this Forum range from "POT" to a host of other things .....so I'm pretty sure that we can talk about good deals out there that aren't offered through Cigar.com...which BTW is a great company.
    the idea is that you are directing them to a competitor's site.
    if you went to McDonalds and starting directing people to taco bell and justified it by saying the McDonalds doesnt sell tacos, youd probably still get kicked out.

    you wont get kicked out of here, but it is in poor taste to direct people on the open forum to competitors site. if you need to tell someone where a deal is use the PM function.
    this forum was designed to help cigar.com sell their product, not other peoples products. Cigar.com hosts this forum to build business, not give it away.
    its about respect.
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  • Re: Fresh Rolled cigars

     06-22-2013, 9:11 PM

    Hang on a second there...while I don't mind a give and take on any topic you are the only one taking issue with it and if Cigar.com has a problem then they can take that up with me. You said that I was directing business away from Cigar.com.....I wouldn't do that but had you read what I said about Cigar.com not having the product I wouldn't have said anything about the other company. You said what I did was in poor taste...I beg to differ as if somebody had information about a particular cigar ...esp. a new cigar...then what is the harm telling others about it? Am I supposed to never say anything about anything cigar related if I have to say it through a filter? If Cigar.com opened up a forum for cigar enthusiasts to join to talk about "cigars" then I take it that if we do talk about them ....it's your opinion that we can only reference Cigar.com as to what they sell or what they think...that we are here only to facilitate what Cigar.com wants us to talk about....that's ridiculous. Cigar.com is a huge entity and if there endeavor is to kidnap cigar enthusiasts where they can only talk about THEIR product then I take issue with any company that will try to enforce it if it's a free forum. I am not a schil to sing the praises of any company unless they earn my business...if you feel that my opinion doesn't agree with your sensibilities then ignore any of my posts...as I will do yours. You need to understand what FREE SPEECH is and that people are free to give their opinions w/o somebody...like yourself...trying to tell others how to think..feel...speak...etc. If you exercised the same type of diligence in referencing poor taste then you would have PM'd me about my supposed comment...not keeping it in the mainstream thread. Don't be a hypocrite about this...you accuse me of not using PM's to reach every single member on here when you have directed your thought/opinion towards me publicy when you could have taken your own advice and PM'd me...I think they call that..Do as I say...not as I do.
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