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jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
On a 1 to 10 scale.

Pelosi: 'Civilization As We Know It Would Be In Jeopardy If Republicans Win The Senate'

her and harry reid should share a room....padded...and under guard.
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  • EulogyEulogy Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you should look at this as hyperbole. It's a way to rally the base and get out voters in a midterm election where voter turnout is historically low. Both sides of the aisle start to do it when it gets close to election season.
  • jd50aejd50ae Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eulogy:
    I think you should look at this as hyperbole. It's a way to rally the base and get out voters in a midterm election where voter turnout is historically low. Both sides of the aisle start to do it when it gets close to election season.


    NO....if she did not make these outrages statements so often....maybe.
  • macs-smokesmacs-smokes Posts: 587
    Her sense of emtitlement is bigger than the whole of the outside.
  • EulogyEulogy Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jd50ae:
    Eulogy:
    I think you should look at this as hyperbole. It's a way to rally the base and get out voters in a midterm election where voter turnout is historically low. Both sides of the aisle start to do it when it gets close to election season.


    NO....if she did not make these outrages statements so often....maybe.
    Again, there are many people on both sides of the aisle who say incendiary comments. Allen West was famous for taking extreme positions and making radical comments about other members of Congress. There is also a interest gap for Democrats this election, they are trying to fire up their base.
  • jlmartajlmarta Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And what's sad is that Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein aren't a damned bit better - or smarter....
  • EulogyEulogy Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I never said that they were. My point is that these kinds of comments are made all the time and not necessarily meant to be taken literally. I would say that just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean that they lack intelligence. We elect officials to carry out our will. You may not agree with Pelosi, but she does represent her liberal San Francisco district very well. Many people aren't a fan of Ted Cruz, it doesn't mean that he isn't representing his district well.
  • SleevePlzSleevePlz Posts: 6,249 ✭✭✭✭
    jd50ae:
    On a 1 to 10 scale.
    I prefer a scale of 1 to "legitimate rape". In this case, I'd put it a little lower than "mission accomplished" on that scale.
    LLA - Lancero Lovers of America
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How high is up?
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  • First_WarriorFirst_Warrior Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TERM LIMITS!!!!
  • jadeltjadelt Posts: 763 ✭✭
    Can we get California to secede ? Would solve all their problems and a lot of mine.
  • clearlysuspectclearlysuspect Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭✭
    She got a lot of people to believe in her which allowed her to make millions of dollars. If she made a "how to" video, I'd buy it.
  • pelirrojopelirrojo Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭
    How stupid is this thread?
  • Bob_LukenBob_Luken Posts: 10,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • EulogyEulogy Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great video Bob.

    jadelt:
    Can we get California to secede ? Would solve all their problems and a lot of mine.


    How is California personally causing you a lot of problems? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
  • jadeltjadelt Posts: 763 ✭✭
    Eulogy:
    Great video Bob.

    jadelt:
    Can we get California to secede ? Would solve all their problems and a lot of mine.


    How is California personally causing you a lot of problems? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
    Since you are from CA I suspect you are used to it. For me, it appears that a lot of CA ideas proliferate across the US. (bad ideas IMHO) Generally they are things that I personally dont agree with. (to each his own) Some examples would be energy policy, immigration policy, Hollywood arrogance, minimum wage, I get concerned about the coming CA meltdown, ($500B in unfunded pensions, unsustainable debt, etc.) Now who do you think will bail out CA? Oh, and then there is Pelosi. You dont have to agree with me. Just my opinion.
  • EulogyEulogy Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I understand we don't have to agree. It's just kind of an extreme comment that California should leave the United States because you don't agree with the direction that they are choosing. I also understand that Pelosi does make stupid comments some times, but she has very little power; shes only Congressional house member.
  • The3StogiesThe3Stogies Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭✭
    Election coming up and the Dems feel the heat. Lots of division in this country now, but it will turn around, it has to, too get things done. United Sates, united being the key word there. Pelosi and Reed are legends in their own minds, out of touch. Serving the public or their parties, or their own agenda's? If I was a Dem last thing I would want is them speaking for me, or even speaking.
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eulogy:
    I understand we don't have to agree. It's just kind of an extreme comment that California should leave the United States because you don't agree with the direction that they are choosing. I also understand that Pelosi does make stupid comments some times, but she has very little power; shes only Congressional house member.
    I think what he's getting at is that Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, and Reed all represent an ideology of authoritarian socialism and wish it to spread. I don't. In their defense, I think they really mean it to be for our own good.

    Someone mentioned Ted Cruz, who I think represents an ideology of Plutocratic authoritarianism, mostly for the good of the most wealthy, but also believing that if the general masses were made to obey, the world would be a better place.

    Thus, for me personally, Pelosi et al = Cruz & co.

    Gun to my head, at least the Democrats seem to have some interest in making sure everyone gets fed, and no one gets too out of hand, so that may be the better choice. Conversely, there is some truth to the Republican extreme that if folks were allowed to starve, they'd be more likely to get up and do something for themselves.

    Until we can make these wheels mesh, we cannot be "United" States. The answer is in the middle.
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  • kuzi16kuzi16 Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭
    Eulogy:
    I understand we don't have to agree. It's just kind of an extreme comment that California should leave the United States because you don't agree with the direction that they are choosing. I also understand that Pelosi does make stupid comments some times, but she has very little power; shes only Congressional house member.
    so its ok for pelosi to speak in potential hyperbole but not him?

  • jadeltjadelt Posts: 763 ✭✭
    Amos Umwhat:
    Gun to my head, at least the Democrats seem to have some interest in making sure everyone gets fed, and no one gets too out of hand, so that may be the better choice.
    And when everyone 'complies' and the Gov is feeding EVERYONE who is buying the food?

    I have no issue helping those really in need. Problem is there is no way to sort out who needs help and who is gaming the system.
  • raisindotraisindot Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    Pelosi is not stupid. But that was a totally stupid thing to say.
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jadelt:
    Amos Umwhat:
    Gun to my head, at least the Democrats seem to have some interest in making sure everyone gets fed, and no one gets too out of hand, so that may be the better choice.
    And when everyone 'complies' and the Gov is feeding EVERYONE who is buying the food?

    I have no issue helping those really in need. Problem is there is no way to sort out who needs help and who is gaming the system.
    Agreed. That's why the quote above lost context without the inculsion of the rest of my post.
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  • EulogyEulogy Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He can make hyperbolic statements if he likes, but it's only hyperbole if he doesn't really mean it.
  • webmostwebmost Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jd50ae:
    On a 1 to 10 scale.

    Pelosi: 'Civilization As We Know It Would Be In Jeopardy If Republicans Win The Senate'

    her and harry reid should share a room....padded...and under guard.
    "We have to pass this bill so that we can find out what's in it" did it for me. That right there registered 38 on the 1 to 10 scale.

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    However, I'm equally certain that, one way or another, it's all George Bush's fault.

    “It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.” —Thomas Jefferson (1808)


  • raisindotraisindot Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    Eulogy:
    He can make hyperbolic statements if he likes, but it's only hyperbole if he doesn't really mean it.


    PM for you, sir.
  • jadeltjadelt Posts: 763 ✭✭
    Eulogy:
    I understand we don't have to agree. It's just kind of an extreme comment that California should leave the United States because you don't agree with the direction that they are choosing. I also understand that Pelosi does make stupid comments some times, but she has very little power; shes only Congressional house member.
    My memory might be bad but I thought she was speaker of the house a few years ago. In that role she was (God forbid) second in line to be president if something happened to Obama and Biden. You would think that someone who is/was second in line would avoid stupid comments. The country has given up on Biden stupid comments and now even invented a word for his silly gaffs as "Bidenisms"

    Cruz is just a dope with no power but Pelosi is a bit different. (IMHO)

    I, on the other hand, have zero power and am completely able to make stupid comments.
  • EulogyEulogy Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can agree that she is not my choice for president either, but when she made these comments she was not the House Majority Leader; she hasn't been for the last 4 years. This comment that she made is also somewhat taken out of context because she seems to have meant it as a joke. It was a bad comment, like when Romney said that he enjoys firing people. I understand that there is an expectation of professionalism when we look to our political leaders, but they are people, and people make mistakes.
  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jadelt:
    Eulogy:
    I understand we don't have to agree. It's just kind of an extreme comment that California should leave the United States because you don't agree with the direction that they are choosing. I also understand that Pelosi does make stupid comments some times, but she has very little power; shes only Congressional house member.
    My memory might be bad but I thought she was speaker of the house a few years ago. In that role she was (God forbid) second in line to be president if something happened to Obama and Biden. You would think that someone who is/was second in line would avoid stupid comments. The country has given up on Biden stupid comments and now even invented a word for his silly gaffs as "Bidenisms"

    Cruz is just a dope with no power but Pelosi is a bit different. (IMHO)

    I, on the other hand, have zero power and am completely able to make stupid comments.
    That made me laugh, I feel that way about myself quite often.
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  • Amos_UmwhatAmos_Umwhat Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eulogy:
    I understand that there is an expectation of professionalism when we look to our political leaders, but they are people, and people make mistakes.
    One of the few absolute truths.
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    "If you do not read the newspapers you're uninformed.  If you do read the newspapers, you're misinformed." --  Mark Twain
  • raisindotraisindot Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭
    Is anyone watching the new Ken Burns' documentary about the Roosevelts?

    Fascinating stuff, especially the TR era. During that era Democrats and Republicans were just as alienated from each other as they are today,and the differences between the parties were more about their religious, cultural and regional constituencies than about their policies, which weren't all that far apart. Both parties were racist (although the Republicans a shade less--they at least appointed black people to federal positions and fostered their votes), both were beholden to special interests devoted to lining their own pockets, and both were run by hooligans posing as party bosses.

    And, in terms of saying stupid tings, TR himself was a master. He was a racist, an imperialist, a warmonger and intolerant of opposiing views. He really was the very Teflon president, bulldozing nearly everything he wanted to get done through a Congress dominated by old-school Republicans. Even though he never left the Republican party (except for his ill-dated presidentail campaign in 2012), and believed the capitalism was the best way, he really became the nation's first quasi-socialist president. But, boy, he said a lot of stupid things.
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