A lot of talk about a smoking ban across all branches of U.S. Military, since release of Pentagon study this week. No smoking will be permitting in the ranks, and that includes cigarettes, cigars, pipes (smokeless tobacco too). Ironic that Gay rights are coming to the forefront for protection while cigar smokers will be reprimanded (or booted out?). I'm not comparing the two activities by any means, only pointing out the contradiction that in a supposedly free country, a soldier who does his job should at least enjoy the same freedoms he's sworn to protect!

Where did you see this? I haven't heard anything about a smoking ban.....I'm not sure exactly what I would do if they did implement that.........

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skweekz:

It's like the world's most amazing game of Tetris in my humidor.

Multiple sites have reported this. Here's one: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/11/smoking-ban-strike-military/

Well I guess this was going to come sometime. I think as a soldier since you belong to the govt anyway, they can do what they want. Also they pay for healthcare and I do know that smoking causes a lot of issues with soldiers. So would this be while on duty or even off base and the likes?

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good thing I am done with the Navy , had they had a smoking ban when I was in I would have never Enlisted ... there was no better way to relax after a hard days work but to pull up a paint can on the fantail & spark up a fine havana or domestic , in a pinch a great pipe of borkum riff or some other tasty pipe tobacco, a cup of NAVY COFFEE & maybe a splash of madicinal single malt that was snuck on board ...... land of the free as long as you agree with the ( Insert your own adjative here) weenies in chage , I think its time to get the political weenies introduced to the writings of Jefferson, Madison , Thomas Paine & all the rest of the Founding Fathers , time for the NANNY STATE to take a Break & check the reality on the horizon. Enjoy, Vince

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Please pass the gravy, GO NAVY

Enjoy, Vince

This won't fly. I'm in the Army medical field and they even tried making Ft. Sam Houston (home of the Army medical dept.) a non smoking post on more than one occasion and have always failed. The closest they have ever come is to ban smoking for initial entry trainees and that is only effective on post. As soon as they get an off post pass, it's over. Shoot, they can't even enforce something like anthrax immunizations. They will never be able to enforce this.

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Ron

The fact that this is ill advised, unenforceable, or unpopular in the ranks is irrelevant. I will give you a personal example. I apologize for the length, but I can't make it shorter. I own a piece of a property management company, with a mission among other things to lease up commercial property. These days, I can tell you that prospective tenants are 2-1 in favor of smoking properties, as opposed to properties with smoking bans. The reasons are all well known: Nonsmoking properties all have an ugly demarcation line of cigarette butts on the ground. Nonsmoking properties force employees beyond the boundaries, creating longer breaks, and more liability. The clients who sign the leases are generally entrepreneurial "Republican" types who put their money where their mouth is when it comes to personal liberty. Smoking properties are more employee friendly, period. Even with these factors in their faces, our Board submits motions to ban smoking on our properties on a regular basis. One partner has a wife who's asthmatic (irrelevant). One partner is a flaming liberal Democrat (enough said), One partner thinks it's good PR to be smoke free. The others vote with me, but it's always close. The day may come soon when I can't light up a cigar on my own property! So you see, no logical arguments will convince me that the military isn't prepared to move toward a ban.

Sheeeit! Just try and enforce this. Make a ship smoke free and there will be riots....i'm not even kidding! Hell 1/2 the carrier skippers i've known are cigar smokers! I cant imagine chiefs that smoke going without cigarettes....hell might as well take our coffee away too...mutiny....straight mutiny :).

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Jetmech_63:

....hell might as well take our coffee away too...

dont give em any ideas.

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Jetmech_63:

....hell might as well take our coffee away too...

dont give em any ideas.

They have not took our coffey at work away yet but they did tell us we have to bring our own cups from home ...not buying anymore styrofoam cups ...cutting expenses ...hhmmmm

Well,that does it... Now I'm not joining the military... No Smoking= No Nate

(or maybe I'm not joining because I love food, cigars, scotch and beer a little too much and the scale is creeping upwards)

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Who Farted?

Richmond, CA just passed a ban on smoking in apartments and condos, since smoke can go between the living units. Gee, that wouldn't happen if they were built properly. Nose in the tent, folks.

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Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (and Explosives!) should be a convenience store - not a government agency.

Let me get this straight. If I own an apartment building in Richmond, and I inform tenants that smoking is permitted, and they say "Great" and they decide to light up, they'll be fined. And if I walk into a building that I own, hang out in one of the apartments and enjoy a cigar, I'll be fined. And if I advertise "smoking allowed" I am forbidden from letting tenants who willingly live in my building from smoking on private property THAT I OWN??? Since when did Virginia become a totalitarian state? Where is the Supreme Court in this?

Sorry, I guess it's California, not Virginia. That figures.

Hells bells boys. Up here we all have been thinkin' for years that we in Canada would one day become a part of the US. Now however it looks like you boy's may becoming more a part of Canada!!! LMAO. You bunch of pinko commies! LMFAO
YOU'LL NEVER GET USED TO ALL THESE TAX'S AND PERSONALLY INTERFERRING LEGISLATION.

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