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Re: Developing Your Palate

Renaissance_Man — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:17:35 GMT

Just wanted to say this thread is awesome... I actually printed some messages from here and am collecting them in a binder! lol... Hm... Has anybody here thought about making a small cigar book together? There is a lot of knowledge on these forums... I once was part of an experiment like that. It is different, but it will give you an idea what I have in mind. I was part of this forum of fantasy lovers and we were all writing short stories.. So... We gathered the best (after we agreed on a common topic and length) and put them in a short story book that we published... I can see something like this working here! Several articles/essays on various topics gathered in a book! It has to be decent writing though and definitely in the article/essay format. I think it could work though! And maybe we can get cigar.com to "sponsor" it a bit. Even a small count of the book would be nice. The best part - it can be done totally electronically and distributed online! I have people at Amazon and we can sell it and promote it there! Ok... Enough... Just tossing some ideas ;)...

Cheers!

Re: Developing Your Palate

T. Gervais — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:42:26 GMT

Thanks for your opinions =) And there is some good news, recently I have been noticing more and more things that I can just barely smell. For instance, after chopping the basil for the omelet I just ate I took a big whif of it and got just a teeny bit of basil smell, so it appears that things are slowly on the mend. The optomistic cigar lover inside of me wants me to believe it might even be the cigars that are helping my recovery. As if they are giving my senses some sort of exercise to make them stronger. You are right that palate developement isn't key to cigar smoking and as long as I keep enjoying tasty cigars and continue to slowly regain my sense of smell I'll be one happy guy. You should also know that besides the smell thing I made a full recovery long ago so I am still physically and mentally (some may argue) whole and unchanged.

Re: Developing Your Palate

kuzi16 — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:22:37 GMT

wow. run over by a car? damn.

im not really sure if i can even comprehend how bad that sucks.
i hope the recovery is going well. i hope you can have many cigars in your future.

T. Gervais:
1) Is this why I prefer stronger cigars even though I am a novice smoker?

Maybe.
though many stronger bodied cigars are full flavor not all full flavor cigars are full body. Flavor is something you taste. body is something you feel.

maybe you just like stronger cigars. I know when i started i liked the fuller end right off the bat.

also, i knew i liked cigars before i was pushing some smoke out through the nose.

are you able to smell anything now?
the brain and nervous system seem to work in ways that still baffle science. maybe there are a few things that you can pick up, and some things that you cant. maybe taste is your trigger for smell, not the usual other way around.

iduno. im not a neurologist...

but i did stay at a holiday inn...

T. Gervais:
2) Is there something I am missing from each and every cigar I have?

Maybe. but at some point, does it matter?

though developing your palate is a fun way to explore cigars, it is not essential to the hobby. the point is enjoyment and relaxation.
as long as those two things are brought to your life by cigars, who cares how developed your palate is.

T. Gervais:
3)Perhaps my olfactory sensors work when I am blowing out and not when I am sucking in? Because I have tried the retrohale (as I have heard it called) with results that brought tears to my eyes.

that could be. maybe the crazy amount of smoke through the nose makes the very weak connection work.

they tears may be because the smoke is way more harsh than what you are uset to pushing out. the burn may be just that.

T. Gervais:
You seem to be a very knowledgeable chap and I was wondering if you had an opinion on this, anything I could benefit from knowing, or maybe even some suggestions.

me? knowledgeable? i got you fooled....

i have an opinion on just about everything.

any more questions and you know where to find me.

Re: Developing Your Palate

T. Gervais — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:13:10 GMT

Kuzi, the second I started reading this thread it really peaked my interest, because I have personal experience with the innerworkings of the nasal passasge, the olfactory sensors, and the chemistry of smell itself. Why you ask? Well a little over a year ago, I was ran over by a car and I came out of it with a fractured skull and a severe concussion (along with some nerve damage in my leg and an aching spine). Anyway, it took me almost a week to realize that I couldn't smell anything, anything at all. You name it, I couldn't smell it. My doctor told me that my olfactory nerves had been completely severed by the severity (lol) of my concussion and he honestly couldn't tell me if they were going to reattach to the point where I could ever smell again. Here's the kicker, I couldn't notice a single difference in the way I taste food. It was since then the day that I began smoking cigars (bought a Punch from the local smoke shop and said "damn this is good!") But as I have been getting more and more into the hobby of collecting and smoking cigars it has really begun to make me think about my affliction in new and different ways. When I hear you and other more seasoned cigar smokers talking about developing your palate and cycling smoke through your nose I begin to wonder: 1) Is this why I prefer stronger cigars even though I am a novice smoker? 2) Is there something I am missing from each and every cigar I have? 3)Perhaps my olfactory sensors work when I am blowing out and not when I am sucking in? Because I have tried the retrohale (as I have heard it called) with results that brought tears to my eyes. You seem to be a very knowledgeable chap and I was wondering if you had an opinion on this, anything I could benefit from knowing, or maybe even some suggestions.

Thanks,

Tyler Gervais

Re: Developing Your Palate

Matt Marvel — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:05:25 GMT

divemtt:
Does this mean I have to smell my fart before I can fairly say a bad cigar tastes like crap? Or will smelling a fart while smoking then make my good cigar taste like crap?

Yes, and maybe. Honestly, I really don't want to find out if either of those are true.

Re: Developing Your Palate

divemtt — Fri, 29 May 2009 00:12:27 GMT

Does this mean I have to smell my fart before I can fairly say a bad cigar tastes like crap? Or will smelling a fart while smoking then make my good cigar taste like crap?

Re: Developing Your Palate

kuzi16 — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:23:12 GMT

robert69165:
Better yet chew on your wifes leather shoes, this may led to somthing hehe!

then shell have to buy more...

id rather spend the money on cigars.

Re: Developing Your Palate

robert69165 — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:20:30 GMT

Better yet chew on your wifes leather shoes, this may led to somthing hehe!

Re: Developing Your Palate

Scooby — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:29:47 GMT

This is an amaizing concept! Being a cook also, I enjoy a variety of flavors and things that will stimulate my taste and smell senses. Awesome!

Re: Developing Your Palate

madurofan — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:31:08 GMT

j0z3r:
kuzi16:
Capt is still hunting im sure.
As long as he wasn't hunting with *** Cheney all should be fine...unless he got mauled by a grouse, I hear they can be quite vicious. :)

LMAO you can't even say D1ck Cheney!

Re: Developing Your Palate

j0z3r — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:34:20 GMT

kuzi16:
Capt is still hunting im sure.

As long as he wasn't hunting with *** Cheney all should be fine...unless he got mauled by a grouse, I hear they can be quite vicious. :)

Re: Developing Your Palate

kuzi16 — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:53:32 GMT

Capt is still hunting im sure.

Re: Developing Your Palate

kaspera79 — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:48:43 GMT

Maybe he is just on Vacation or something, I'd hate to add his name to the list of " Lost Boys ". Other guys we are missing.. Lasabar, Pilot, and the Captain.. You too Duty Joe !! Your lurking but not adding your three cents..

Re: Developing Your Palate

phobicsquirrel — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:58:23 GMT

Anyone hear from sirious?

Re: Developing Your Palate

urbino — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:23:06 GMT

It's my ministry.