kuzi16:

sane:

...and are current economic state would probably be worse off if Obama hadn't taken office.

cant prove that; heck, you cant even provide a single shred of data to support that claim. this argument is invalid.

Nope I cant, that was posted as my believe, just as no one could prove that if someone else took office we would be in better shape.

kuzi16:

sane:

we have lost about 31,327 man and woman

link me on this number please. according to snopes the number is way lower. around 8 thousand. and according to The Associated Press on Thursday, February 19, 2009 US military deaths in the the Iraqi war were at 4,245

Sorry I thought I edited that, I meant to say 31,327 wounded and about 7,500 deaths.

kuzi16:

sane:

terrorist attacks on the world have not gone down if anything they have gone up.

please back this up with data.

I know that wikipedia is not the most complete source but it does have a good list of attacks around the world. Start going through the years before 9/11 and the years after. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents#1970s.E2.80.932000s
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/pubs/fs/5902.htm

kuzi16:

sane:

PS. You shouldn't use FOX as a source, even FOX makes fun of how biased they are.

again, back that up with the link where they do so.

also...
they are conservative. but that does not mean that everything they say is a lie. conservatives are not monsters. liberals lie too. FOX news is just as Valid as any left-leaning Obama-loving network.

Both Sides lie, *** everyone lie's if someone had used Democracy Now I would say that they are also biased, I was just pointing out that FOX is way far right so try and use a source that is more in the middle if you want the left to even think about reading the article or watching the news cast and vise versa.

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