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dutyje:Laker, you're wrong.. you're unhealthy and you're dying, because you live in Canadialand... freezing to death in your igloo just like everybody else up there. Everybody from here to East Bumfuckistan knows it. That's not going to change until you start lining the pockets of the filthy rich and giving huge patents to drug manufacturers. Why can't you learn from the huge successes of our capitalist healthcare system? I hear they've all even got koodies up there, which we eradicated in the U.S. nearly a century ago through private practice.
Luko: dutyje:Laker, you're wrong.. you're unhealthy and you're dying, because you live in Canadialand... freezing to death in your igloo just like everybody else up there. Everybody from here to East Bumfuckistan knows it. That's not going to change until you start lining the pockets of the filthy rich and giving huge patents to drug manufacturers. Why can't you learn from the huge successes of our capitalist healthcare system? I hear they've all even got koodies up there, which we eradicated in the U.S. nearly a century ago through private practice. Yeah, plus Canadian medicine sucks hards cause of the docs. They're always saying stuff like, "Looks like you broke you arm, eh?""Let's get a scan, hoser."
phobicsquirrel:ummm milk it..
urbino:BTW, is there somebody who thinks either major party doesn't want to redistribute wealth?
laker1963: If you can afford to pay you can get FASTER medical attention in some areas. Not better just faster for a profit medical services.
Luko: urbino:BTW, is there somebody who thinks either major party doesn't want to redistribute wealth? Well I did...but your question is rhetorical, ain't it? Now I just feel stupid. My folks always said I was naive. Look, the rich are already rich, so what's wrong with making them a little richer? On the other hand, you can't make the poor rich, too. Cause then everybody's rich and then we just have no context. It can't work.
kuzi16: B) can someone explain to me how you make the poor rich by making the rich poorer? i dont get it.
laker1963: kuzi16: B) can someone explain to me how you make the poor rich by making the rich poorer? i dont get it. Why do people always talk in such extremes when trying to make a point? Kuzi I haven't heard hear or anywhere else, someone say that they want to make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. Why did you go there? The fact remains that the poor could get richer without any impact on the rich. Let's try to keep things in perspective. As for you mentioning about Canadians along the border using hospital facilities in the Border States...can't say it doesn't / hasn't happened. People get medical attention in other countries for many reasons and expediency is likely one of them. Again because we are talking about individuals, don't make the arguement so universal. A few people using alternative medical services does not a new service make.
kuzi16: laker1963: kuzi16: B) can someone explain to me how you make the poor rich by making the rich poorer? i dont get it. Why do people always talk in such extremes when trying to make a point? Kuzi I haven't heard hear or anywhere else, someone say that they want to make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. Why did you go there? The fact remains that the poor could get richer without any impact on the rich. Let's try to keep things in perspective. As for you mentioning about Canadians along the border using hospital facilities in the Border States...can't say it doesn't / hasn't happened. People get medical attention in other countries for many reasons and expediency is likely one of them. Again because we are talking about individuals, don't make the arguement so universal. A few people using alternative medical services does not a new service make.i brought it up because lukos comment and a bit of stream of consciousness thing goin on. i wasnt suggesting that anyone here brought that up as a solution but as a general inquiry. I know there are people out there (in the world) that do think of that as a solution and i was genuinely looking for some insight to that thought pattern. Im not sure that i iterated that in a manner that was clear enough.people tend to speak in extreams when making a point to try and make it abundantly clear what the point is.
sane: kuzi16:a police state? how so? I feel that McCain will continue down the same path that Bush has lead us down for the past 8 years. Bush has moved us closer to being a police state then any other president over the last 50 or more years. What makes me think we are moving towards a police state? well lets take the patriot act that was a big jump, and then we can look at Guantanamo, or the blatant push to allow spying and detaining of US citizens. You can also look at what the police are getting away with, look at the WTO protests in Seattle. There is also the problem with private military gaining power and influence in the US. Those are just some reasons why I think we are moving towards being a police state.
kuzi16:a police state? how so?
PuroFreak:If you think thats "too far out there" well let me ask you this. On Sept. 10th 2001 would you have believed that a group of 19 men would have hijacked planes and completely taken down BOTH World Trade Center towers and hit the Pentegon and killed thousands of Americans in one attack? Imagine what other "extremes" they would be willing to go to just for the sake of killing Americans...