Sounds like a good idea Kame, the only hitch I'd see in that is if they would allow us to smoke on their patio. When I find some time, I can go check it out, but my semester is starting soon along with a new job, so I'm kinda in the middle of a hurricane of stuff to do.

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brsmith21:

I've heard the first step is admitting that you have a problem. Thankfully, I don't have a problem. I'll just smoke more.

Ok guys, this has kind of gone by the wayside, but I'm back after some research and I've got some ideas.

Today I went to the cigar shop in Old Town Temecula with Leonard to check it out and see if it is what I had in mind...in a word, it is. It is larger than the other one I was considering with almost 3x the selection, it also offers an outdoor smoking area that is more than adequate should some decide to smoke outside. Also there are more than a few places to eat down there and many shops to be browsed if one is so inclined, no reason why this thing has to be exclusively about cigars.

Another thing we were thinking about was maybe moving the herf from the cigar shop, after closing, down the way to the Pechanga Indian Casino. The reasons are: A) they're open past 7pm, B) They have a large bar area with nice, plushy accommodations, C) they are smoking friendly, even cigar friendly and D) You don't have to buy any cigars from the casino, so it's BYOC, at least for that leg of the trip.

These are the thoughts now, chime in if you have any input as to why this might not be the best idea or if you can suggest anything more fitting. By the way, I gave the idea of a restaurant some thought but ultimately rejected it due to the fact that a lot of people like to eat outside but are not smoking friendly, so even if smoking is allowed, I don't want to ruin the experience for people who are trying to eat, even if they are whiny and bitchy, they still paid for there food and deserve to enjoy it.

Let me know guys. If this all sounds good we could be talking about sometime within the next few weeks.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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What if we just had the whole thing at Pechanga? That way we wouldn't have to worry about finishing a smoke before the shop closed and we can bring all of our own cigars so we have more money to loose on the blackjack tables.

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Kamelyon:

What if we just had the whole thing at Pechanga? That way we wouldn't have to worry about finishing a smoke before the shop closed and we can bring all of our own cigars so we have more money to loose on the blackjack tables.

Might be a problem seeing as how I'm underage for booze till May. I'm down to smoke at the shop but I tried entering in a Texas Hold Em tourney and got turned away because of the alcohol being served at the casino. Aside from that, I'm excited to see this thing get started.

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brsmith21:

I've heard the first step is admitting that you have a problem. Thankfully, I don't have a problem. I'll just smoke more.

Well, that's an option too. I like the idea of starting at the cigar shop mainly because there are cigars to buy there unlike at the casino and because of all the restaurants that are around there, I was figuring that at some point food would become a topic, and there is a lot to choose from in Old Town.

This will be a majority thing, I'm not going to say it's going to be one way and one way only, whatever is most agreeable to the most people is what we'll go with. So with that said, let's hear from the rest of you.

Garen: Did you get turned away at the door, or inside when you tried to enter the tournament? If inside, then all we'd have to do is have you not get carded at all. I don't know, I had thought about that since I knew you weren't 21 yet. Hmm...

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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i didn't realize pechanga was smoking friendly at all - i usually only go to the poker room i guess where it is a smoke free area. what shop are you talking about in old town temecula? i think i have seen one off of the 15 but not one in that area.

The Olde Towne Cigar Shoppe is the one I'm talking about. I think you're talking about the Zarka Cigar Lounge as that one can be seen from the freeway. Here's a link to the website: Link

And yes, Pechanga is smoking friendly, aside from the non-smoking gaming areas. We were in the bar area and there were some other people smoking cigars as well.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson

Alrighty, I'm convinced. Lets start talking dates. Is it going to be a Friday night? Saturday? Sunday afternoon?

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I was thinking of doing it on a Saturday, my thought was to start in the mid-afternoon and carry it on sometime into the night, with everyone welcome to come and go as they please.

I just got to looking on the internets and found another cigar lounge in Temecula, the Old World Cigar Lounge. I'll need to check this place out too and see if it might not be an option, possibly a better one.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson

To answer your question, I got carded at the door, but I am able to just say I'm going to go eat at the buffet. Might have to bring a Groucho Marx mustache to get by everything.

And Olde World Cigar Lounge got shut down due to the owner forgetting to pay rent and his taxes. One of the guys I'm bringing used to work there.

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brsmith21:

I've heard the first step is admitting that you have a problem. Thankfully, I don't have a problem. I'll just smoke more.

Ok then, it'd be nice if the website was shut down too in that case. Looks like Old Town it is.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson

Are new folks welcome? I googled so cal herf and ended up here... I have been smoking sticks for a number of years but never attended an official Herf (just smoking with friends ect). Regards...

j0z3r:

The Olde Towne Cigar Shoppe is the one I'm talking about. I think you're talking about the Zarka Cigar Lounge as that one can be seen from the freeway. Here's a link to the website: Link

And yes, Pechanga is smoking friendly, aside from the non-smoking gaming areas. We were in the bar area and there were some other people smoking cigars as well.

yea zarka is the name of it - i hear you have to pay a large sum of money to become a member there though - i need to go play some poker at pechange and have a cigar now

As far as dates go, I vote for either the 5th or the 19th. That way I'll be sure to have some $$ right after payday.

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TGO:

Are new folks welcome? I googled so cal herf and ended up here... I have been smoking sticks for a number of years but never attended an official Herf (just smoking with friends ect). Regards...

If you enjoy cigars, you are welcome.