That cigar sounds really tasty. When you put this into regular production i hope you give us all discounts.

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RaschNuts:

That cigar sounds really tasty. When you put this into regular production i hope you give us all discounts.

IF i get it into regular production.

easier said than done.

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One aspect of blending I could never figure out has to do with the evolution of the smoke as the burn progesses. As we know, the flavors change as the ash lengthens. But I don't see how one could anticipate those flavors until after the blend is formulated and lit. Some cigars are interesting in that the flavor changes totally. Some just get harsher and boring (I avoid those, duh).

From what I understand, the blender knows the general taste of a cigar before he blends it, partly through experience, partly through smoking puro's of the individual leaves; but even knowing this, it's impossible to tell how it'll turn out. Thus, even master blenders need months or years before they can get the kind of taste/blend they want out of a particular cigar.

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havanaal:

One aspect of blending I could never figure out has to do with the evolution of the smoke as the burn progesses.

that is a difficult one. the smoke itself changes the tobacco as it goes through the cigar.
do the last 3 inches taste different than the first two because of this? sometimes.
is there a way to tell if it will?
iduno.

some cigars are one note songs. the NUBs taste the same all the way through. does the smoke not effect the flavor in the unsmoked tobacco?
maybe my palate isnt refined enough to tell. maybe it doesnt make a difference.
there is one way to ensure complexity. thats to do what viaje did with one of their blends...
Change the filler part way through.
the stick was the 50/50. at about the midpoint there was a distinct change in the flavor. this is because some of the filler leaves were changed.

discussed earlier in this thread was the concept of a NUB vs a cigar in the "A" vitola.
the thought behind the NUBs one note was that only tobacco from a specific part of the leaf was being used. in an "A" the entire leaf is being used. the nutrient distribution in that leaf is not even. this gives the filler a bit of complexity. im sure that has a bit to do with it also.
this is a very difficult question, but im going to try and pay attention to how a cigar changes from beginning to end and see if there are any patterns. (besides the typical building in strength)
maybe i can even look back and read my catalog and establish patterns.


this, like many things in this thread, open an entirely new Pandora's box in blending.

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One quick question, do you own the blend you created?

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that question means a lot more if it were going into production. If i were a blender, i would not put it in production because it is not exactly what im looking for. will others like it? i would guess they could.
since i have so few of them i will only be giving out a very small number. one to my father, my wifes father, a good friend, and the winner of the 10k post contest.
each of those people will get one of my wifes blend as well.

given the opportunity to blend again, i hope that i get more than one shot at it. i feel that i could tweak the blend a bit and get it to where i want it to be.
even if the same tobacco isnt being used, i feel that i could get a cigar that captures more of what i was going for if i had more than a few hours to work on it.


all that being said... no i dont own it.
all work and tobacco belong to the Placencia factory. if i wanna get technical, legally, it belongs to them.

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kuzi16:

that question means a lot more if it were going into production. If i were a blender, i would not put it in production because it is not exactly what im looking for. will others like it? i would guess they could.
since i have so few of them i will only be giving out a very small number. one to my father, my wifes father, a good friend, and the winner of the 10k post contest.
each of those people will get one of my wifes blend as well.

given the opportunity to blend again, i hope that i get more than one shot at it. i feel that i could tweak the blend a bit and get it to where i want it to be.
even if the same tobacco isnt being used, i feel that i could get a cigar that captures more of what i was going for if i had more than a few hours to work on it.


all that being said... no i dont own it.
all work and tobacco belong to the Placencia factory. if i wanna get technical, legally, it belongs to them.

So is that how it works if Company A has Factory A make their Cigar the Factory owns it? Or are you able to patent or Copyright a cigar?

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RaschNuts:

So is that how it works if Company A has Factory A make their Cigar the Factory owns it?

no, or yes depending on the deal that was worked out. in my case we were part of a group vititing the factory with the deal already worked out. we had no intentions of making a line of cigars so if we happened to hit the jackpot and make a crazy good blend, it was theirs.

RaschNuts:

Or are you able to patent or Copyright a cigar?

im not sure about the blend. the name, yes.

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kuzi16:

RaschNuts:

So is that how it works if Company A has Factory A make their Cigar the Factory owns it?

no, or yes depending on the deal that was worked out. in my case we were part of a group vititing the factory with the deal already worked out. we had no intentions of making a line of cigars so if we happened to hit the jackpot and make a crazy good blend, it was theirs.

Same thing happens in academia. If I do anything marketable, it instantly becomes the property of Rutgers. My mistakes, on the other hand, are all mine. ;)

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Kuz - i was reading the CCOM mag an it was talking about the 2011 Tobacco Report. I was wondering the tobacco that will be picked this year. how much of that goes into the cigars produced this year. I know there is a fermentation process and i think i read typically will take a couple months, and im not sure when they harvest the tobacco. So would we get any of the tobacco this year or would it be in our cigars next year and later years?

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almost none of it will be ready to go by that point. there is a time period of a few weeks/months for curing, then a few months for fermenting. most factories age after that. i would say that most of the tobacco from this year will be used 2+ years out. this may be a "vintage" year and that means that there may be even MORE age.


just remember:
good things come to those who wait.

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Thanks for the info.

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Great information here. Could you elaborate A little more on the different types of plants? Burly verses Sumatra and so on. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for A informative post.

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Burly is actually used in pipe tobacco. that is not a typical cigar tobacco.

what are you looking to know on those types?
it is very difficult to give an answer to a question that is asked on such a broad subject.
thats like the thread that asks ust to school the new guy on "everything cigar"

there is so much going on in the cigar world that this is an impossible task.
in my original post i tried to give a brief overview because there is so much information out there that putting it in one post is impractical.

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