Kuz, you got's PM.

word to big bird.

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Felt like splurging a bit tonight, so I bought myself a Camacho Liberty at my local B&M and sat down to relax. I have one currently resting in my aging humidor, but figured if I'm going to put months or years on such an expensive cigar, shouldn't I find out if I'm going to enjoy it in the first place?

Pre-light was a nice, spicy barnyard, tobacco flavor. Nothing special or out of the ordinary, but still nice. Once lit, I was greeted by spice and lots of cedar and wood notes. A little ways in and some leather and more or less earthy notes played around with the spice. Not much sweetness to this cigar, more or less a meaty type of smoke. Draw was excellent and the cigar produced lots of smoke. The burn line wavered a bit, but was always self correcting.

Overall: very nice smoke and now I feel much better about letting that other one age for a while. Now, do I want to pick up another one to age as well???

was it an o8?

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Sorry, yes it was an 08. I should have mentioned that. There's another local shop that has the 07 as well and I've considered picking up one of those.

kool. I picked up 3 of them and 2 06's.. I heard the 07 wasn't the greatest, someone here said so. they are spendy though. I'd like to find an 02.

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OK, so I got these in fairly recently but just couldn't keep my paws off them. I normally would have let them sit in the humi for another week or so before smoking, but I really wanted to try one.

To start, the cap had a strong spice to it, which made me think this was going to be one strong, spicy cigar. I didn't bother clipping the foot and though you can't properly test the draw, I'd actually recommend not clipping the foot. It's a little more work, might require a touch up, and the initial draw will be a bit tight, but you get to taste the wrapper, and only the wrapper before you actually hit any filler with this cigar.

The initial few draws, though tough, were woodsy with a sweetness that you'd find in pure cane sugar or molasses. Not a dipped sweetness, but a Perdomo Champagne Reserve sweetness - that underlying sweetness - but with more umph than the Perdomo Champagne. That woodsy, sweet character stayed through most of the cigar, which, surprisingly, was not spicy. Almost a little disappointing, but still a great cigar. Once it got going, there was TONS of smoke coming from this puppy. Lots of flavor, though the middle was not quite there for me. Maybe a little age would fix that. Towards the end, more cocoa/leather notes were present.

Bottom line - with some age, I think this may be a fantastic cigar. Nearing the end of it, it was getting really cold and I was ready to go in but I noticed the wrapper at the head of the cigar was beginning to unravel where I clipped it. I pulled that back and peeled the whole wrapper off this cigar to smell it. There was a great, tobacco sweetness to the wrapper that clearly pointed out the sweet undertone that was present through most of the smoke. Another winner for 5 Vegas.

Definitely try another after several weeks Rob, the draw will improve a ton with some rest and the flavor will settle in and give you more balance. I like the Relic myself, think it is a pretty solid offering from 5 Vegas.

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Gotta agree, this one's a winner. When mine first arrived I had to smoke one right off the truck (but ground shipment is overnight where I'm located, so minimal shock to the sticks). After a few weeks in the humi they are even better, a few months from now they should be amazing. I'd better order another box while I can.

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I enjoyed the relic too. I want a box, and hopefully get it when those damn cask strengths get in. One thing I enjoyed about the relic was the sweetness of it. Can't put my finger on it.

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Rob1110:

I noticed the wrapper at the head of the cigar was beginning to unravel where I clipped it. I pulled that back and peeled the whole wrapper off this cigar to smell it. There was a great, tobacco sweetness to the wrapper that clearly pointed out the sweet undertone that was present through most of the smoke. Another winner for 5 Vegas.

One reason why I Only cut cigars with a cutter only when I have too. Even then sometimes I guess I cut too much off and this happens.

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phobicsquirrel:

I enjoyed the relic too. I want a box, and hopefully get it when those damn cask strengths get in. One thing I enjoyed about the relic was the sweetness of it. Can't put my finger on it.

Have one resting ...I think I'll fire it up this weekend after work ...(damn I wish I were retired)

gmill880:

phobicsquirrel:

I enjoyed the relic too. I want a box, and hopefully get it when those damn cask strengths get in. One thing I enjoyed about the relic was the sweetness of it. Can't put my finger on it.

Have one resting ...I think I'll fire it up this weekend after work ...(damn I wish I were retired)

lol.. I keep telling myself during the day I'm going to have a certain cigar later but when I get home the newbies or one's I haven't had yet always win out. They're talking to me gene, really F'ing with my mind!!!

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phobicsquirrel:

gmill880:

phobicsquirrel:

I enjoyed the relic too. I want a box, and hopefully get it when those damn cask strengths get in. One thing I enjoyed about the relic was the sweetness of it. Can't put my finger on it.

Have one resting ...I think I'll fire it up this weekend after work ...(damn I wish I were retired)

lol.. I keep telling myself during the day I'm going to have a certain cigar later but when I get home the newbies or one's I haven't had yet always win out. They're talking to me gene, really F'ing with my mind!!!

Brother I can identify with that big time ...same thing here...

I haven't had the regular Habano line, but the Burberry is kind of a neat cigar that one might purchase for conversation purposes only (google it and check it out). The three different wrappers in a checkered pattern looks nice, but serves a second purpose. It should add layers of complexity to the smoke burning through 3 shades of habano wrapper. Being a perfecto, and tripple wrapped, I expected the burn to be a total nightmare, but only one touchup was needed. Aside from one small spot, it burned very evenly all the way down.

The flavor profile was mostly earthy, with notes of tobacco, wood, leather and even coffee. There were some sweet notes of cinnamon matching the coffee very well at the beginning of the cigar. Draw was a tad on the tight side at the beginning, but opened up after a while. The flavors were great throughout the first half, but the 2nd half wasn't quite as good and complex. Not saying that it was bad, just not as great as the first half. I think with a little rest, this will be an excellent cigar that I could highly recommend for a medium bodied cigar.