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Last post 10-20-2009, 11:43 AM by One2gofst. 430 replies.
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  • Re: AVO Maduro

     07-09-2009, 2:36 PM

    it wasnt BAD. i just feel that when you compare the AVO maduro to any other Davidoff product, it just lacks the complexity and subtle nuances that Davidoff is best known for. in general i prefer a cigar that is complex from start to finish but i am very ok with cigars that are not; for example in the past week or so i have smoked a 5 vegas series A, a free cuba churchill, RP vintage 90, monticristo media noche, and a sancho panza double maduro. only one of these is truly complex from start to finish. yet im still ok with the others.

    given the reputation and price point of Davidoff products, i expected more from the AVO maduro.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Montecristo Media Noche

     07-09-2009, 2:56 PM

    7-8-09 been in humi since 7-17-08

    Montecristo Media Noche Edmundo (5 x 55)
    Wrapper: Connecticut Broadleaf Maduro
    Binder: Dominican Republic
    Filler: Nicaragua, Peru, Dominican Republic

    First off, thank you, Madurofan, for sending this cigar to try. Sorry it took so long to get to.

    Before taking the cigar out of the cellophane I can tell that it has some tooth to it. the cigar is very firm and the cap is very flat. The cigar feels oily to the touch and has a light tobacco smell to it. when licked before the cut, the cap as a bit of spice that fades quickly.

    Cut with a punch. The draw is very good but on the easy side and has a coco cream taste to it.

    The first few puffs have a bit of a woody coffee taste to it with a tiny spice on the finish. As the cigar settles from the light, an earthy undertone develops, the coffee lightens, and the overall flavor picks up some depth. There is still some spice through the nose.

    By the time the first ash falls at just over an inch a light nutty taste enters the mix. This is an interestingly blended cigar. For a maduro it is surprisingly not sweet. it is good but is definitely an atypical maduro.

    At the midpoint the nut flavor has developed more and a white pepper shows up on the finish. Everything plays well together.

    I keep water with me when I review a cigar, but this time I don’t seem to need it. I feel that this cigar is making my mouth water as if I were about to eat a well prepared meal.

    The burn is not perfect but is mostly self correcting.

    The final third brings out a warmer smoke and again the coffee comes out.

    This is the type of complexity that I tend to like in a cigar. Every puff has a multitude of flavors but also they change seamlessly throughout the cigar.

    Burn to the burn
    Time: 1 hour 35 min.

    Burn: 9
    Draw: 9
    Taste: 9
    Aftertaste: 9
    Appearance: 8
    Construction: 9
    Balance: 10
    Feel: 9

    Overall: 9
    4 smoke rings -- an above average cigar


    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-10-2009, 12:17 AM

    kuzi16:
    7-8-09 been in humi since 7-17-08

    Montecristo Media Noche Edmundo (5 x 55)
    Wrapper: Connecticut Broadleaf Maduro
    Binder: Dominican Republic
    Filler: Nicaragua, Peru, Dominican Republic

    First off, thank you, Madurofan, for sending this cigar to try. Sorry it took so long to get to.

    Before taking the cigar out of the cellophane I can tell that it has some tooth to it. the cigar is very firm and the cap is very flat. The cigar feels oily to the touch and has a light tobacco smell to it. when licked before the cut, the cap as a bit of spice that fades quickly.

    Cut with a punch. The draw is very good but on the easy side and has a coco cream taste to it.

    The first few puffs have a bit of a woody coffee taste to it with a tiny spice on the finish. As the cigar settles from the light, an earthy undertone develops, the coffee lightens, and the overall flavor picks up some depth. There is still some spice through the nose.

    By the time the first ash falls at just over an inch a light nutty taste enters the mix. This is an interestingly blended cigar. For a maduro it is surprisingly not sweet. it is good but is definitely an atypical maduro.

    At the midpoint the nut flavor has developed more and a white pepper shows up on the finish. Everything plays well together.

    I keep water with me when I review a cigar, but this time I don’t seem to need it. I feel that this cigar is making my mouth water as if I were about to eat a well prepared meal.

    The burn is not perfect but is mostly self correcting.

    The final third brings out a warmer smoke and again the coffee comes out.

    This is the type of complexity that I tend to like in a cigar. Every puff has a multitude of flavors but also they change seamlessly throughout the cigar.

    Burn to the burn
    Time: 1 hour 35 min.

    Burn: 9
    Draw: 9
    Taste: 9
    Aftertaste: 9
    Appearance: 8
    Construction: 9
    Balance: 10
    Feel: 9

    Overall: 9
    4 smoke rings -- an above average cigar

    I've smoked a Media Noche Churchill with about 6 months resting on it and I seriously enjoyed it... Great flavor and the burn was as you described, not pretty buy not messy

    I wish to smoke the other one in my humidor (going on about 11 months now!) but I'm afraid to smoke it for the cost of these guys do NOT make it an everyday smoke

    I'd rather be a Smart-A$$ than a Dumb-A$$
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-10-2009, 9:27 AM

    Lasabar:
    ... but I'm afraid to smoke it for the cost of these guys do NOT make it an everyday smoke
    and for about the same price i could have an AVO Domaine.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: AVO Maduro

     07-10-2009, 10:06 PM

    kuzi16:
    it wasnt BAD. i just feel that when you compare the AVO maduro to any other Davidoff product, it just lacks the complexity and subtle nuances that Davidoff is best known for. in general i prefer a cigar that is complex from start to finish but i am very ok with cigars that are not; for example in the past week or so i have smoked a 5 vegas series A, a free cuba churchill, RP vintage 90, monticristo media noche, and a sancho panza double maduro. only one of these is truly complex from start to finish. yet im still ok with the others.

    given the reputation and price point of Davidoff products, i expected more from the AVO maduro.



    What one is the complex cigar?



    Work called! They said if you dont come in on Friday, dont bother to come in on Monday! - Whoo hoo four day weekend!
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-10-2009, 10:08 PM

    Great review!

    Whats the MSRP on this one?



    Work called! They said if you dont come in on Friday, dont bother to come in on Monday! - Whoo hoo four day weekend!
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-11-2009, 9:19 AM

    the aov domaine and the media noche are both in the neighborhood of $12 a stick.


    the complex through out the stick one was the Media Noche
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-11-2009, 11:17 PM

    p.s. damn you Kuzi now I'm hunting the internet for a box of Media Noche.... I've only had the churchill with a few months on it and I LOVED it... what would you suspect the difference in taste would be to the Edmundo??? (Edmundo is the only box I can find and that's without spending $240!

    I'd rather be a Smart-A$$ than a Dumb-A$$
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-12-2009, 2:02 PM

    i think that the churchill would be more complex of a cigar over the length of the cigar because of how a cigar is bunched. you will get a more distinct difference from start to middle to finish because there are longer chunks of leaves in there. the nutrient distribution is different throughout the length of the leaf.

    at the same time i feel that the over all flavor profile wont be that far off. if you are going for most flavor and most impact from the wrapper leaf then i would suggest the no.3.
    the 44 ring may do wonders to the cigar. it may bring out more of the sweet that is usually in a maduro and was very played down in this cigar.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-12-2009, 3:40 PM

    kuzi16:
    i think that the churchill would be more complex of a cigar over the length of the cigar because of how a cigar is bunched. you will get a more distinct difference from start to middle to finish because there are longer chunks of leaves in there. the nutrient distribution is different throughout the length of the leaf.

    at the same time i feel that the over all flavor profile wont be that far off. if you are going for most flavor and most impact from the wrapper leaf then i would suggest the no.3.
    the 44 ring may do wonders to the cigar. it may bring out more of the sweet that is usually in a maduro and was very played down in this cigar.
    I've gone thru quite a few of these but only in the Edmundo vitola, and they ROCK!
    I would be interested in trying a few of the No. 3's too, i'll bet that extra little sweetness from the wrapper to filler ratio would only add to the enjoyment of this fine cigar.


    I'm a cigar whore... what's your excuse?

  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-12-2009, 10:16 PM

    kuzi16:
    the aov domaine and the media noche are both in the neighborhood of $12 a stick.


    the complex through out the stick one was the Media Noche


    A little spendy on my budget, but if its good enough Id spend the $$.

    I like Decades and theyre a bit pricey.
    Work called! They said if you dont come in on Friday, dont bother to come in on Monday! - Whoo hoo four day weekend!
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-12-2009, 11:20 PM

    The AVO Domaines in the #30's are listed at $10.90 here at C.COM. I ordered a 5 pack of these the other day and they were cheaper then that. Fourtotheflush you should give C.COM a call and see what they will do a "fiver" for, I think you may be pleased. The AVO's are NOT like the Media Noche's but they are one of my top 5 favorites.
    That's from the top five that don't change. Not those other five that change failry regularly :)


    I'm a cigar whore... what's your excuse?

  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-13-2009, 2:35 AM

    laker1963:
    The AVO's are NOT like the Media Noche's
    this is true. I hope i didnt give off that impression. i like the AVO way more.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Arturo Fuente Chateau Fuente King B

     07-20-2009, 3:42 PM



    7-15-09 been in humidor since 10-12-07
    Arturo Fuente Chateau Fuente King B (6x55)
    Wrapper: Ecuadorian Sungrown (“Cloud grown”) Rosado
    Binder: Dominican
    Filler: Dominican

    The cellophane has the name of the cedar wrapped cigar printed in gold on it. The foot is wrapped in black ribbon meaning it is Sungrown. Once the wrapper and the cedar are removed you find one or two dominant veins. There is a very cedar smell to the cigar itself. I’m sure this is due to the two plus years in the humidor in the cedar.

    The lick on the cap has a bit of white pepper and has a bit of an oily mouth feel.
    Cut with a double guillotine. The draw has a bit of resistance and brings a classic tobacco smell but a bit on the earthy side.

    Once lit the cigar opens with a light sweetness and a round earthy taste overall. The aftertaste has a bit of wood to it.

    The ash is a bit flakey, but the burn is fairly even. Thought the ash did fall that I felt was a bit early. (¾ of an inch). By this point the flavor has evened out top a woody earth and a bit of a generic nut flavor. The sweet has dropped off quite a bit. It is smooth and the wood continues on the finish.

    There is an underlying flavor that I can’t seem to put my finger on. Maybe a hearty bread or grain of some sort.

    Along one of the dominant veins consistently the cigar burns slower than the rest. Corrective lights are needed and I don’t feel that this is construction related.

    The further into the cigar, the more cedar seems to creep out. It never dominates though. It always stays in balance.

    The problem with this cigar is that it is missing the wow factor. The reputation of the company, the fantastic presentation, the price tag, and the great construction all build up to nothing amazing. It’s not that the cigar is bad. It’s actually quite good. It just does not live up to its own expectations.
    Burn: 7
    Draw: 9
    Taste: 9
    Aftertaste: 8
    Appearance: 10
    Balance: 9
    Construction: 10
    Feel: 8

    Overall 8.7
    3 smoke rings -- an average cigar



    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: Montecristo Media Noche

     07-23-2009, 10:36 AM

    laker1963:
    The AVO Domaines in the #30's are listed at $10.90 here at C.COM. I ordered a 5 pack of these the other day and they were cheaper then that. Fourtotheflush you should give C.COM a call and see what they will do a "fiver" for, I think you may be pleased. The AVO's are NOT like the Media Noche's but they are one of my top 5 favorites.
    That's from the top five that don't change. Not those other five that change failry regularly :)



    Seeing as though Im buying at about 10X what I am smoking right now, I think Ill have to wait until the fall to pick up any more sticks.

    Ive got a desk top 40/50 thats packed, Ive got a desktop 20/25 thats packed and I have a antique side table humidor (copper lined I mentioned in other posts) that has a couple boxes and randoms hanging out in.
    As soon as I smoke down some I will re-org and squeeze this order in. Ill probably pick this up along w\ some more Decades!

    Work called! They said if you dont come in on Friday, dont bother to come in on Monday! - Whoo hoo four day weekend!
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