Hi Kaspera, All the reasons you state neglect the fact that the cigar burns VERY unevenly (all three). Despite employing all the tricks to 'even' the burn, I had very little success. This makes for a difficult smoke and can contribute to the heat. I always 'sip' my cigars, and this particular cigar is about a 55 minute smoke (to the band), so you can't say I smoke too fast. My usual preference is for large ring size, stronger cigars (invaribly maduros). I have been smoking cigars for the best part of 30 years, so I don't think I fit into the 'newbie' bracket. Maybe the fact that these particular "Graycliffs" are made under licence in Honduras and not in the Bahamas (as their expensive counterparts) might have something to do with the quality? :-)

Well bear, after thirty years, ( I'm only at 16 years ) there is nothing I can tell you that you haven't found too. And I mean that in a good way. I didn't know your experience level from this one post. I did notice that some, (many) Graycliffs do burn unevenly, but I am willing to deal with that on most cigars. The ones I have were collected three years ago so maybe things have changed since then. It's a shame with retail prices so high on this " super premium" cigar You should get a better experience. Maybe they will get better with more humidor time.

The thick ring gauge cigars are also tough to control, since there's so much more surface area to maintain. You can get it too hot just trying not to let them go out...I like a thick cigar, but I've been going with some smaller ones sometimes lately, because they're so much easier to smoke...

kaspera79:

Well bear, after thirty years, ( I'm only at 16 years ) there is nothing I can tell you that you haven't found too. And I mean that in a good way. I didn't know your experience level from this one post. I did notice that some, (many) Graycliffs do burn unevenly, but I am willing to deal with that on most cigars. The ones I have were collected three years ago so maybe things have changed since then. It's a shame with retail prices so high on this " super premium" cigar You should get a better experience. Maybe they will get better with more humidor time.

I've had exactly 3 Graycliff cigars perform decently, one being the cheapest Graycliff you can buy in the CI Purple power. From my experience with their cigars, as limited as it is, they just don't seem to be that well made, regardless of where they're made. I don't know, some people love Graycliff but I haven't had one really impress me aside from the Purple-urple.

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Three months down the line (and another two Graycliff Pirates)... My original impression still stands... nothing to write home about. Some burn better than others, but they ALL burn unevenly. :( I have four humidors (with never less than about 150 cigars) that I check almost daily, so I can't be accused of neglecting my stock. Careful humidification made no difference, so all I can ascribe the poor burn to is poor construction. Sorry, but Graycliff has lost my vote.

I must be the odd man out... I've rarely had an issue with Graycliffs. I really enjoy the 1666 and the Turbo. The G2 has become my go-to stick for when I want a mild smoke.

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Same thing happened to me! I freaked, thinking something was wrong with my humidor and it was "crashing".  I am not as meticulous as some when it comes to taking care of "My Precious"... 

1.  Is there anything that can be done to keep this cigar intact?

2.  Are there any others that are plagued with this design flaw? 

Help us, help you...

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I must be the odd man out... I've rarely had an issue with Graycliffs. I really enjoy the 1666 and the Turbo. The G2 has become my go-to stick for when I want a mild smoke.

I really like the 1666 too. I bought 4 mazos and have smoked through 2 of them into the 3rd. I've had some with burn issues, but with over a year on them they mostly burn nearly perfect.

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