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Experimentation in Rest and Aging.

Last post 11-18-2010, 9:59 PM by Diamondog. 44 replies.
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  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     09-26-2009, 1:46 AM

    j0z3r:
    I looked up an article on cigar aging written by Steve Saka of Drew Estates cigars..
    "Aging a cigar is great... you have to let it "REST" for at least 5-6 months and let it "AGE" for 3 years... after 3 years the SUGAR we dipped our damn cigars in will really settle in and make you get cavities"

    Who Farted?
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     09-26-2009, 12:16 PM

    haha, you funny funny guy. :D
    "Beliefs are neat. Cherish them, but don't share them like they're the truth" Bill Hicks
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     09-26-2009, 7:31 PM

    vankleekkw:
    Just an FYI.... Anything less than 5-10 years technically is just resting.
    actually, it depends on the cigar.
    "Long ashes my friends"
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     09-27-2009, 2:58 PM

    vankleekkw:
    Just an FYI.... Anything less than 5-10 years technically is just resting.
    j0z3r:
    vankleekkw:
    Just an FYI.... Anything less than 5-10 years technically is just resting.
    That's a pretty rigid time fixture. Not all cigars are going to age the same, and some will hold up to 5 years far better than others. So in that respect, you can't truly fix one length of time as "true aging".

    Related to that, I looked up an article on cigar aging written by Steve Saka of Drew Estates cigars...hopefully the relation to DE doesn't shake his credibility. :) Link
    i agree with joe here a bit. Here is a thread that goes a bit more into all of that.


    this is also linked in another active thread
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-04-2010, 6:52 PM

    17 days until cigar #2. I'm getting excited. :-)
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-04-2010, 7:44 PM

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    Damn, it's been that long already? I'm stoked to hear the comparison!!
    "If I cannot smoke in heaven, then I shall not go" Mark Twain
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-04-2010, 7:57 PM

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  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-04-2010, 11:22 PM

    17 days? man that's a long time. :) I got a couple of the ccom brazillia last month. Perhaps I should smoke one the same day you do!
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  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-05-2010, 2:21 AM

    another factor to consider....

    maybe over this time you have developed your palate a bit. maybe the cigar didnt change that much but your perception of it has. any thoughts on that?
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-05-2010, 3:03 AM

    kuzi16:
    another factor to consider....

    maybe over this time you have developed your palate a bit. maybe the cigar didnt change that much but your perception of it has. any thoughts on that?
    I dunno Kuzi. Perhaps. Certainly wouldn't rule it out. I don't think my taste change much at all. As far back as I can remember, I've always enjoyed bold, robust, deep flavors. And I've always enjoyed things that pack a punch. I love coffee, dark chocolate, straight scotch, steak, cabernet sauvignon. I can't recall the last time my taste has changed. As far back as I can remember, these have been my favorite things. Naturally, dark, full-bodied cigars are my favorites. I started smoking cigars with full-bodied cigars. Switching to mild would be a serious transition for me. I've only found 2 connecticut cigars I enjoy (NUB, cigar.com Purple).

    If they've done anything similar to what my Tarazona cigars have done, then I'm expecting good results. My first couple of Tarazonas I thought they were a very good cigar, but not my favorite. 8 months later, I smoked another one. Probably the best cigar I've smoked so far. I was blown away by the difference after just 8 months of rest.

    Either way, I'm looking forward to it. I'm even planning on a couple mimosa's just to keep the variables to a minimum. The biggest factor I'm worried about is the 70 some degrees in temperature drop since August.
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-05-2010, 12:15 PM

    its not so much that your tastes have changed, but your palate. now that you pay so much attention to flavor, have you developed your palate so that you taste more in a cigar than you would have in the past?
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-05-2010, 12:21 PM

    kuzi16:
    its not so much that your tastes have changed, but your palate. now that you pay so much attention to flavor, have you developed your palate so that you taste more in a cigar than you would have in the past?
    This right here is why I gave up on aging, resting, whatever and trying to tell the differences. Now I just smoke em when I feel like it. If I smoke a cigar and can tell it needs more time to finish its fermentation then I note that. Other than that I just smoke em and enjoy them. You can definetly think your way right out of enjoying a cigar.
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-05-2010, 12:33 PM

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    madurofan:
    kuzi16:
    its not so much that your tastes have changed, but your palate. now that you pay so much attention to flavor, have you developed your palate so that you taste more in a cigar than you would have in the past?
    This right here is why I gave up on aging, resting, whatever and trying to tell the differences. Now I just smoke em when I feel like it. If I smoke a cigar and can tell it needs more time to finish its fermentation then I note that. Other than that I just smoke em and enjoy them. You can definetly think your way right out of enjoying a cigar.
    See, and I think this is an amazing part of why I enjoy cigar so much. I can't think my way out of enjoying a cigar, but instead I can find so much more to enjoy in cigars that I thought were just "meh" and the ones that were great when I first started. I feel that my palate can appreciate more now that I've experienced more. But there is still so much more I wish to experience and get to know better with cigars.
    "If I cannot smoke in heaven, then I shall not go" Mark Twain
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-05-2010, 1:35 PM

    madurofan:
    kuzi16:
    its not so much that your tastes have changed, but your palate. now that you pay so much attention to flavor, have you developed your palate so that you taste more in a cigar than you would have in the past?
    This right here is why I gave up on aging, resting, whatever and trying to tell the differences. Now I just smoke em when I feel like it. If I smoke a cigar and can tell it needs more time to finish its fermentation then I note that. Other than that I just smoke em and enjoy them. You can definetly think your way right out of enjoying a cigar.
    ive just noticed that i tend to like very strong cigars that have had a few years to age.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: Experimentation in Rest and aging.

     02-06-2010, 12:44 AM

    kuzi16:
    its not so much that your tastes have changed, but your palate. now that you pay so much attention to flavor, have you developed your palate so that you taste more in a cigar than you would have in the past?
    Could be, Kuzi. I know I stated at the beginning of this that I might end up learning something completely different from what I set out to learn. What fun is an experiment anyway if everything goes exactly as planned.
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