Sorry it was a letdown, kuzi. But a great review, as always. I'm not sure I've ever had a cigar that tasted grassy.

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Damn kuzi I hate it when you're right I smoked this tonight. It has been resting for quite some time, at least 8 months. I'll say this it doesn't age well. I experienced the same burn issues and was constantly correcting. I would have to describe the main flavor as more barnyard than anything else. When it was but a young cigar, i.e. straight from the B&M it was earthier and fuller bodied with more spice. The resting made it more mild and brought out the barnyard, grassy taste. The middle third did however, hit a new an interesting flavor to me almost a coconut husk flavor, smell an uncracked coconut and you'll know the taste I'm speaking of. I'm not one to talk about off the wall flavors but this one was. Kuzi you're right average cigar not very complex and dissappointing. I forgot I had this guy resting and got excited bc I knew you were doing a review on it. I still have a maduro resting as well. Going to an Rocky Patel event tomorrow night at the B&M so I'll hopefully come home with some new RP's.

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~~ Josh Martinez

yeah... i hate it when im right too...
I try not and lead you guys wrong.

ill try and get another review in soon.

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1-20-08 been in humi since 10-14-07

Camacho 1962 torpedo (6x54)
Wrapper: Habano seed corojo
Filler: Honduran grown Cuban seed.

The cigar looks great with an incredibly smooth wrapper. The pre-light smell is tobacco and barnyard. The lick on the cap is sweet and oily in the mouth. I cut with my double guillotine. The draw is damn near perfect.

After the light the first puffs are leather and a woody flavor. A spice quickly develops on the front third of the tongue and there is a round meaty flavor on the finish.

The first ash falls at almost two inches. By this point the spice has settled a tiny bit. It’s more cinnamon on the front of the palate and more pepper on the back of the palate. The aroma is cedar and the taste is still on the leather side. I find the finish to be short and the spice lingers the longest on the palate.

I find myself puffing into the wind because the aroma is that good. Unfortunately the cigar is burning faster than I thought it would. It isn’t hot, just fast. This will be a shorter smoke than I want.


By the half way point the burn is perfect and no corrective lights are needed. A sweet initial taste that is sweet comes out. This fades to a spicy earth with leather and the same round finish as before. The spice still lingers. It is quite good and literally makes my mouth water.

The ash holds tenaciously. The second ash doesn’t fall until well past the half way point. By the end of the cigar I only “ashed” a total of three times including setting the cigar down because it was done.

The last third of the cigar there is an increase in spice and the smoke warms a bit but it isn’t bad at all.

Burned to the burn (of my finger)

Burn time: about 1 hour 20 minutes (this is short for a cigar that is 6 x 52… at least for me it is)

All in all this cigar was good but there was something about the feel of the overall cigar that I found to be keeping it from being a “great” or “classic” cigar. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great cigar and ill probably buy more, but it isn’t THAT great.


Burn: 10
Draw: 9
Taste: 9
Aftertaste: 9
Construction: 10
Appearance: 9
Feel: 8

Overall: 9.1
4 smoke rings -- an above average cigar

With some age this may get better.

Recommended to:
Camacho fans.
Corojo lovers
People who want the spice to be the most complex part of the cigar


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kuzi16:

Recommended to: ... People who want the spice to be the most complex part of the cigar

Thats me! I'm now officially excited about this cigar might be my first of the vacation!

You know if you'd give your poor cigars some humidity and quit depriving them at 64% it wouldn't burn fast. ;) lol you know I'm playing ... I've actually started playing with a pre-smoke humidor. I've taken my travel humi and turned the humidity down to 65% and I'm letting my cigar sit in there a few hours to see how that works. I've heard of a few people that age at 70 - 72% but smoke at 65 some I'm giving it a shot.

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I don't wanna hold a job down if its just to make ends meet. I prefer rapid rise and faster falls, I wanna die the American dream.
~~ Josh Martinez

i know your just playing, but that is a valid point. to some degree at least. this is the first cigar that i have noticed burning faster than i would like (or think it should)

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man... i should post more in here. freakin work is getting in my way... come to think of it, i dont think i put my review of the cg4 in here.... poop!!

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kuzi16:

man... i should post more in here.

Yes, you really should. I assumed you weren't posting more because you were smoking mostly stuff you'd already reviewed. But if you're smoking new stuff and not reviewing it -- not cool, man. You're cheating us.

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6-24-08 been in humi since 6-7-08

Illusione CG:4
Wrapper: Nicaraguan corojo
Filler: Nicaragua
Binder: Nicaragua

There is almost no smell to this dark cigar. The wrapper is very smooth. There is little to no taste on the lick. I cut with a punch and the unlit draw has a creamy feel to it. The pull is just how I like it with a bit of resistance but not hard.

The light is quick. The first draw has a bunch of flavor. Not all of the flavor is good. There is a sweet note, a spicy one and a woody one. It’s the wood that isn’t so good in this mix. It has harshness to it. The second puff was nowhere near as harsh. I blame the overly harsh start on the light. It lit quick. Too quick.

The aroma is good and the cigar has a good spice to it.

The first ash fell kind of early at about ¾ of an inch. Most of that time the burn was a bit uneven and flaky. The wood flavor is mostly on the aftertaste and it still retains a slight harsh note to it. It has another taste that I can only describe as “leaf.” It reminds me of the smell of jumping in the leaves as a kid. Basically it’s a strange version of the classic corojo taste.

By about the half way point the sweet is all but gone. The wood and spice remain. The taste isn’t that bad but the aftertaste is a bit harsh and too leafy. With less than a third of the cigar left the flavor is more of the same. I can’t seem to get it to burn quite right.

Smoked to the band.

Burn time: about. 1 hour 10 min.

Burn: 7
Draw: 10
Taste: 8
Aftertaste: 7
Construction: 8
Appearance: 9
Feel: 7

Overall: 8.0
3 smoke rings -- an average cigar… I guess.

Recommended to:
People that have the patience to smoke through the bad to get to the good.
People that want a very different corojo
People that get them for free. (It was worth a shot)

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urbino:

kuzi16:

man... i should post more in here.

Yes, you really should. I assumed you weren't posting more because you were smoking mostly stuff you'd already reviewed. But if you're smoking new stuff and not reviewing it -- not cool, man. You're cheating us.

its worse than that. i havent had a cigar in almost a week. I hope to end that trend tonight. well see how it goes.

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i hope this was a bad one. I hear that they are hit or miss. i guess i missed this one.

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kuzi16:

its worse than that. i havent had a cigar in almost a week. I hope to end that trend tonight. well see how it goes.

I'll cross my fingers for you, cuz that's just keepin' a brother down.

kuzi16:

It has harshness to it. The second puff was nowhere near as harsh. I blame the overly harsh start on the light. It lit quick. Too quick.

Can you expand on this connection, a bit? I sometimes experience harshness at the beginning of a cigar, but I'd never noticed it corresponding to how the cigar lit. Is the connection just that the cigar is a bit too dry at the foot, which produces harshness?

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lit too quick means that there was too much heat. scoarched tobacco. If you constantly notice that your cigars tend to "settle down" a bunch right off the bat then there is a good chance that you are lighting it to quick (too hot) some cigars react to this differently thatn others ive noticed. this one was just very harsh.

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I know what you mean by "lit too quick", I've had some cigars take to a good torching just fine without any harshness and some just flat out revolt against my poor taste buds if I don't take at least 90-120 seconds to light it.

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Interesting. I'll have to pay more attention to my lighting technique. Thanks, guys!

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