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Last post 10-26-2011, 7:17 AM by GreenMachine. 57 replies.
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  • Re: Burn problem

     10-04-2011, 5:56 PM

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    Rotate the cigar as you smoke it and if it starts to run a bit then keep the side that is burning faster up and the side burning slower down until it corrects itself and then continue rotating again. I wouldn't worry about rotating your sticks in the humi, that's an old wives tale; in a properly humidified humidor they are all getting humidification no problem and rotating them won't do anything to "improve" them but the excess handling can damage them and/or introduce oils, residue, dead skin, dirt ect from your hands that can lead to mold. If you insist on rotating your stock be sure to wear some disposable gloves or wash/dry your hands thoroughly before handling your cigars.
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-04-2011, 8:42 PM

    CAcigarguy007:
    ...... If you insist on rotating your stock be sure to wear some disposable gloves or wash/dry your hands thoroughly before handling your cigars.
    .. Or, just leave the cello on..
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-04-2011, 9:01 PM

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    CAcigarguy007:
    Rotate the cigar as you smoke it and if it starts to run a bit then keep the side that is burning faster up and the side burning slower down until it corrects itself.......
    really?? I thought it was just the opposite.......I really am a noob........

    "who does that? who has time?!!" Gary Radnich
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-04-2011, 10:50 PM

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    KingoftheCove:
    CAcigarguy007:
    Rotate the cigar as you smoke it and if it starts to run a bit then keep the side that is burning faster up and the side burning slower down until it corrects itself.......
    really?? I thought it was just the opposite.......I really am a noob........
    Being that you're from Santa Cruz and all, it is the opposite of what we do with joints....lol. J/K man,......kinda :) But seriously the bottom dose burn a tad quicker since there isn't smoke which runs off the top. Turning while puffing is the best solution/prevention though.
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 12:14 AM

    CAcigarguy007:
    KingoftheCove:
    CAcigarguy007:
    Rotate the cigar as you smoke it and if it starts to run a bit then keep the side that is burning faster up and the side burning slower down until it corrects itself.......
    really?? I thought it was just the opposite.......I really am a noob........
    Being that you're from Santa Cruz and all, it is the opposite of what we do with joints....lol. J/K man,......kinda :) But seriously the bottom dose burn a tad quicker since there isn't smoke which runs off the top. Turning while puffing is the best solution/prevention though.
    But...your solution is my problem...the top's burning faster...I'd rotate the part that's not burning to the bottom...but it's already there. Also, heat rises, so the laws of physics are against your here...
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  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 12:27 AM

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    Ken Light:
    CAcigarguy007:
    KingoftheCove:
    CAcigarguy007:
    Rotate the cigar as you smoke it and if it starts to run a bit then keep the side that is burning faster up and the side burning slower down until it corrects itself.......
    really?? I thought it was just the opposite.......I really am a noob........
    Being that you're from Santa Cruz and all, it is the opposite of what we do with joints....lol. J/K man,......kinda :) But seriously the bottom dose burn a tad quicker since there isn't smoke which runs off the top. Turning while puffing is the best solution/prevention though.
    But...your solution is my problem...the top's burning faster...I'd rotate the part that's not burning to the bottom...but it's already there. Also, heat rises, so the laws of physics are against your here...
    Yes, but fire science is on my side. Fire needs oxygen to burn, the bottom of the cigar will burn faster (as it has access to more oxygen) than the top. Google it if you'd like; but it's on you man, just trying to help a BOTL out but it looks like you got it all figured out.
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 9:22 AM

    CAcigarguy007:
    Ken Light:
    CAcigarguy007:
    KingoftheCove:
    CAcigarguy007:
    Rotate the cigar as you smoke it and if it starts to run a bit then keep the side that is burning faster up and the side burning slower down until it corrects itself.......
    really?? I thought it was just the opposite.......I really am a noob........
    Being that you're from Santa Cruz and all, it is the opposite of what we do with joints....lol. J/K man,......kinda :) But seriously the bottom dose burn a tad quicker since there isn't smoke which runs off the top. Turning while puffing is the best solution/prevention though.
    But...your solution is my problem...the top's burning faster...I'd rotate the part that's not burning to the bottom...but it's already there. Also, heat rises, so the laws of physics are against your here...
    Yes, but fire science is on my side. Fire needs oxygen to burn, the bottom of the cigar will burn faster (as it has access to more oxygen) than the top. Google it if you'd like; but it's on you man, just trying to help a BOTL out but it looks like you got it all figured out.
    No need to get all snippy, I was just pointing out that your advice would lead me to put the slow end on the bottom, where it already is. I figured someone who'd essentially call another guy a stupid pothead and then only half take it back would be able to take a little less serious interaction. My bad, now I know.
    DISCLAIMER: The preceding post is almost certainly not serious, unless it says it is, and even then, quite adamantly. Don't take it serious, and try to disregard any offense taken. Unless you're here to scam people, then take your offense and leave. :D
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 10:07 AM

    If I can interject my two cents worth, he's right, Ken. I didn't believe it either when I was first told to move the slower burning side to the bottom. Didn't make sense to me - heat rises, right? But it does work. I can vouch for it.
    Marty


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  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 10:38 AM

    jlmarta:
    If I can interject my two cents worth, he's right, Ken. I didn't believe it either when I was first told to move the slower burning side to the bottom. Didn't make sense to me - heat rises, right? But it does work. I can vouch for it.
    I appreciate the interjection, and good to know he's right, but it also doesn't do a thing to solve the problem since in my case slow-burning side is already on the bottom. It does, perhaps, tell me that how I'm holding the cigar is not the issue. Probably the light then.
    DISCLAIMER: The preceding post is almost certainly not serious, unless it says it is, and even then, quite adamantly. Don't take it serious, and try to disregard any offense taken. Unless you're here to scam people, then take your offense and leave. :D
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 10:54 AM

    Ken Light:
    jlmarta:
    If I can interject my two cents worth, he's right, Ken. I didn't believe it either when I was first told to move the slower burning side to the bottom. Didn't make sense to me - heat rises, right? But it does work. I can vouch for it.
    I appreciate the interjection, and good to know he's right, but it also doesn't do a thing to solve the problem since in my case slow-burning side is already on the bottom. It does, perhaps, tell me that how I'm holding the cigar is not the issue. Probably the light then.


    Maybe so. I can't really speak to that since I'll only use a torch and am pretty particular about the completeness of the light - maybe that's why I don't have many burn problems.
    Marty


    Some expensive sour mash bourbon, an excellent handmade cigar, an exceptional woman.... Life is good!
    _____________________________

    Life's too short for bad cigars, Grasshopper....
    _____________________________
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 12:13 PM

    jlmarta:
    Ken Light:
    jlmarta:
    If I can interject my two cents worth, he's right, Ken. I didn't believe it either when I was first told to move the slower burning side to the bottom. Didn't make sense to me - heat rises, right? But it does work. I can vouch for it.
    I appreciate the interjection, and good to know he's right, but it also doesn't do a thing to solve the problem since in my case slow-burning side is already on the bottom. It does, perhaps, tell me that how I'm holding the cigar is not the issue. Probably the light then.


    Maybe so. I can't really speak to that since I'll only use a torch and am pretty particular about the completeness of the light - maybe that's why I don't have many burn problems.
    I'm curious now. What's your method? Right now i'm just using a BIC, I have a torch waiting for me when I return home. It would be nice to have a method to the madness, and not totally look like a noob while trying to light one up. Thanks!
    Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 12:36 PM

    howtobass:
    jlmarta:
    Ken Light:
    jlmarta:
    If I can interject my two cents worth, he's right, Ken. I didn't believe it either when I was first told to move the slower burning side to the bottom. Didn't make sense to me - heat rises, right? But it does work. I can vouch for it.
    I appreciate the interjection, and good to know he's right, but it also doesn't do a thing to solve the problem since in my case slow-burning side is already on the bottom. It does, perhaps, tell me that how I'm holding the cigar is not the issue. Probably the light then.


    Maybe so. I can't really speak to that since I'll only use a torch and am pretty particular about the completeness of the light - maybe that's why I don't have many burn problems.
    I'm curious now. What's your method? Right now i'm just using a BIC, I have a torch waiting for me when I return home. It would be nice to have a method to the madness, and not totally look like a noob while trying to light one up. Thanks!
    NOT beating on you at all Bass, but STOP THIS INSANT using your BIC... the chemicals that the BIC when lighting puts into your cigar COMPLETELY changes it... either use a butane torch (quicker and normally more consistent light of the gar) OR a match AFTER the match has burned off the lighting chemicals (3-5 seconds). The match is for sure the "purest" way to light it as it induces zero chemicals into the tobacco. Not an issue that you have done it up to this point, but if you can change it, it will be a much richer and more enjoyable experience my friend. Just trying to help a fellow BORK who is risking his life so we CAN enjoy what we do every day back here in the States. Thanks a lot man, trust me you and your comrades are MY heroes! -- Brett
    MoW Special Forces Badge Earned 11/3/2011
    "It'll fvck you up...!" - Curt Pickens 2nd Annual Chicago Herf 2013
    Get Lit Son!!

    "When walking in open territory bother no one. If someone bothers you ask him to stop. If he does not, destroy him."
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 12:49 PM

    90+ Irishman:
    howtobass:
    jlmarta:
    Ken Light:
    jlmarta:
    If I can interject my two cents worth, he's right, Ken. I didn't believe it either when I was first told to move the slower burning side to the bottom. Didn't make sense to me - heat rises, right? But it does work. I can vouch for it.
    I appreciate the interjection, and good to know he's right, but it also doesn't do a thing to solve the problem since in my case slow-burning side is already on the bottom. It does, perhaps, tell me that how I'm holding the cigar is not the issue. Probably the light then.


    Maybe so. I can't really speak to that since I'll only use a torch and am pretty particular about the completeness of the light - maybe that's why I don't have many burn problems.
    I'm curious now. What's your method? Right now i'm just using a BIC, I have a torch waiting for me when I return home. It would be nice to have a method to the madness, and not totally look like a noob while trying to light one up. Thanks!
    NOT beating on you at all Bass, but STOP THIS INSANT using your BIC... the chemicals that the BIC when lighting puts into your cigar COMPLETELY changes it... either use a butane torch (quicker and normally more consistent light of the gar) OR a match AFTER the match has burned off the lighting chemicals (3-5 seconds). The match is for sure the "purest" way to light it as it induces zero chemicals into the tobacco. Not an issue that you have done it up to this point, but if you can change it, it will be a much richer and more enjoyable experience my friend. Just trying to help a fellow BORK who is risking his life so we CAN enjoy what we do every day back here in the States. Thanks a lot man, trust me you and your comrades are MY heroes! -- Brett
    I thought BIC was bad too until someone here said it is butane gas, which is the same as many torch lighters, so that's why I continued to use the BIC.
    Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 12:52 PM

    Whoa! Now you've got me all curious, Brett. I'll admit that chemistry and physics aren't my long suits, but please explain to me the difference between a Bic and a torch regarding the "chemicals" they induce into the tobacco. I mean, they're both burning butane albeit one of them is under greater pressure than the other. So I don't understand your point.
    Marty


    Some expensive sour mash bourbon, an excellent handmade cigar, an exceptional woman.... Life is good!
    _____________________________

    Life's too short for bad cigars, Grasshopper....
    _____________________________
  • Re: Burn problem

     10-05-2011, 1:46 PM

    jlmarta:
    Whoa! Now you've got me all curious, Brett. I'll admit that chemistry and physics aren't my long suits, but please explain to me the difference between a Bic and a torch regarding the "chemicals" they induce into the tobacco. I mean, they're both burning butane albeit one of them is under greater pressure than the other. So I don't understand your point.
    Thanks for the interest guys, to make sure that I pass along the correct info I am going to dig back through the textbooks, but I BELIEVE (without researcheing it YET) that the PRESSURE creates a much hotter burn and more completely combusts the butane. The hotter a burn under greater amounts of pressure will ALWAYS result in a more complete burn with less by-product residual chemicals. Yes butane is butane, but when burned at a greater pressure and heat it combusts more completely and interacts the the atmosphere in a different way. Studied all of this at great length when I was doing my 4 years stint at CSM. Truth be told I am no expert but I believe that I might have a little more insight than the average bear. Get back to you soon for the FACTS not just my opinion, and you know what everyone says about opinions... lol
    MoW Special Forces Badge Earned 11/3/2011
    "It'll fvck you up...!" - Curt Pickens 2nd Annual Chicago Herf 2013
    Get Lit Son!!

    "When walking in open territory bother no one. If someone bothers you ask him to stop. If he does not, destroy him."
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