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The Pros and Cons of Maduro

Last post 01-08-2009, 12:58 PM by Krieg. 37 replies.
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  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     12-31-2008, 6:31 PM

    kuzi16:
    ... on the other side of things a Corojo is fairly thin leaf that does not endure the proscess as well. It is very rare to see a maduro corojo, though they do exist (Camacho Corojo Maduro)
    If im not mistaken (off the top of my head here) the 5 vegas series uses a costa rican maduro... though im unsure of the seed.


    ... not grown in connecticut though.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     12-31-2008, 6:38 PM

    side bar...
    Kuz
    What is the difference between Corojo and Criollo? (CAO Criollo mmmm) Are they just 2 different seeds from Cuba...
    Thanks.
    Andy

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  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     12-31-2008, 8:55 PM

    The Criollo strain can be documented all the way back to Columbus’s visits to the Caribbean. It is the classic Cuban tobacco. It is rich and round in flavor with a spice to it. The Corojo tobacco plant is a derivation of the Criollo. It was created in Cuba through natural selection to resist mold. The taste is a bit more barnyard (in a good way) and it still has a spice to it.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     12-31-2008, 9:23 PM

    kuzi16:
    kuzi16:
    ... on the other side of things a Corojo is fairly thin leaf that does not endure the proscess as well. It is very rare to see a maduro corojo, though they do exist (Camacho Corojo Maduro)
    If im not mistaken (off the top of my head here) the 5 vegas series uses a costa rican maduro... though im unsure of the seed.


    ... not grown in connecticut though.
    Gurkha also utilizes a Costa Rican grown maduro leaf on the Titan, though no mention of the seed. And the Padilla Obsidian uses a Nicaraguan ligero maduro wrapper, from the taste I'd guess it is a Nicaraguan habano leaf, though I can't be sure.
    "Beliefs are neat. Cherish them, but don't share them like they're the truth" Bill Hicks
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-01-2009, 5:20 PM

    Gurkha uses that same leaf on the Fuerte, I think, though, overall, that cigar has more flavor than the Titan.
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  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-01-2009, 5:36 PM

    Man I hope so...I was so not impressed one bit with the Titan. I'm glad I only paid $6 for it. One of my bigger disappointments of 2008, I wanted to like it, I really did.
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  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-01-2009, 7:39 PM

    Yeah, I was pretty underwhelmed by it, too. Looking at the descriptions on various sites, it's hard to see much difference between the 2 cigars. Same wrapper, Nicaraguan/Honduran filler. My taste buds tell me there is a difference, though.
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  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-01-2009, 11:51 PM

    I too was underwhelmed by the Titan...I didn't find it to be unpleasant, but not great. That wrapper is so oily and thin, I've had two that had burn issues, with splitting and cracking. Very underwhelmed.
    "As I grow to understand life less and less, I learn to love it more and more." - Jules Renard
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-02-2009, 11:28 AM

    j0z3r:
    kuzi16:
    kuzi16:
    ... on the other side of things a Corojo is fairly thin leaf that does not endure the proscess as well. It is very rare to see a maduro corojo, though they do exist (Camacho Corojo Maduro)
    If im not mistaken (off the top of my head here) the 5 vegas series uses a costa rican maduro... though im unsure of the seed.


    ... not grown in connecticut though.
    Gurkha also utilizes a Costa Rican grown maduro leaf on the Titan, though no mention of the seed. And the Padilla Obsidian uses a Nicaraguan ligero maduro wrapper, from the taste I'd guess it is a Nicaraguan habano leaf, though I can't be sure.
    I'm aware that Maduros come from damn near every country but they always use Conneticut seed, as best I can tell.
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-02-2009, 11:59 AM

    madurofan:
    j0z3r:
    kuzi16:
    kuzi16:
    ... on the other side of things a Corojo is fairly thin leaf that does not endure the proscess as well. It is very rare to see a maduro corojo, though they do exist (Camacho Corojo Maduro)
    If im not mistaken (off the top of my head here) the 5 vegas series uses a costa rican maduro... though im unsure of the seed.


    ... not grown in connecticut though.
    Gurkha also utilizes a Costa Rican grown maduro leaf on the Titan, though no mention of the seed. And the Padilla Obsidian uses a Nicaraguan ligero maduro wrapper, from the taste I'd guess it is a Nicaraguan habano leaf, though I can't be sure.
    I'm aware that Maduros come from damn near every country but they always use Conneticut seed, as best I can tell.
    ALMOST always.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-02-2009, 12:14 PM

    kuzi16:
    madurofan:
    j0z3r:
    kuzi16:
    kuzi16:
    ... on the other side of things a Corojo is fairly thin leaf that does not endure the proscess as well. It is very rare to see a maduro corojo, though they do exist (Camacho Corojo Maduro)
    If im not mistaken (off the top of my head here) the 5 vegas series uses a costa rican maduro... though im unsure of the seed.


    ... not grown in connecticut though.
    Gurkha also utilizes a Costa Rican grown maduro leaf on the Titan, though no mention of the seed. And the Padilla Obsidian uses a Nicaraguan ligero maduro wrapper, from the taste I'd guess it is a Nicaraguan habano leaf, though I can't be sure.
    I'm aware that Maduros come from damn near every country but they always use Conneticut seed, as best I can tell.
    ALMOST always.
    I know and I'm curious as to what they use in the ones that make it ALMOST always, y'know?
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-02-2009, 1:54 PM

    this is exactly what i was talking about a few posts back in this thread. Many retailers will be glad to tell you what country the tobacco came from but only some will tell you what seed/strain of tobacco it is. the most commonly mentioned starins are corojo, criollo, and Connecticut.

    sometimes they wil tell you everything BUT the strain. For example: Honduran sun-Grown Ligero. you even know the growing conditions, and priming... but what type of tobacco is it?

    I knwo that most tobacco that cigars are made from originates from cuba but does that mean that ALL tobacco is a variation of criollo? even the sumatra leaves?

    iduno.
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-02-2009, 2:02 PM

    kuzi16:
    this is exactly what i was talking about a few posts back in this thread. Many retailers will be glad to tell you what country the tobacco came from but only some will tell you what seed/strain of tobacco it is. the most commonly mentioned starins are corojo, criollo, and Connecticut.

    sometimes they wil tell you everything BUT the strain. For example: Honduran sun-Grown Ligero. you even know the growing conditions, and priming... but what type of tobacco is it?

    I knwo that most tobacco that cigars are made from originates from cuba but does that mean that ALL tobacco is a variation of criollo? even the sumatra leaves?

    iduno.
    Protecting their brand I guess.
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-02-2009, 2:08 PM

    could be. or maybe i just hit it on the head when i said "...ALL tobacco is a variation of criollo..."
    Kuzi's cigar catalog blending 101 developing your palate
  • Re: The Pros and Cons of Maduro

     01-02-2009, 2:09 PM

    kuzi16:
    could be. or maybe i just hit it on the head when i said "...ALL tobacco is a variation of criollo..."
    Quite possibly.
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