Ok, it's time for another Krieg weigh in... At least I know Kuzi will enjoy this...so without further a due here it goes.

So ... you want to know what is going on here? I mean, come on! Barack Obama, president for what, nine months now? And he gets the Nobel Peace Prize?

Hopefully you weren't all that surprised.

Let's work through this thing. First - you have to come up with a definition of "peace." There's a Nobel Prize for physics; one for medicine too. In virtually every culture and every country in the world you define "physics" and "medicine" pretty much the same way. Not so for "peace." During the post World-War II the Soviet Union defined "peace' as "an absence of opposition to world Communism." As long as nobody was challenging their communist expansionism they felt we were all at peace. Let some country; The United States for instance, challenge their plans for world domination and ... no more peace.

For me any definition of "peace" must have a component dedicated to freedom. You can, after all, live a life of peace in a jail cell, so long as there isn't someone there to stir things up. You're not free, but peace reigns.

Now ... to Obama and the Peace Prize. I take you back again to that Pew Research poll conducted in Europe last year. Almost 60% of Europeans who responded to the poll wanted America to be less powerful in world affairs. That's not an uncommon sentiment - right up until the time some other country is threatening to kick some international tail.

So ... along comes the Nobel committee. Can we reasonably assume that this committee reflects much of the European attitude? I mean, they're not exactly headquartered in Boise. They look at the nominations before them, and there's PrezBO! Now what has Obama done in the past nine or so months? Why, he's given the Euro-weenies just exactly what they wanted! Now we have a United States with a weaker presence in world affairs! Russia and China are striving for military domination. Obama backs off the American promise of a shield against Iran's missiles for Eastern Europe. Then we have the Arab states reportedly working to replace the dollar as the petroleum trading currency. Today there are suggestions that Obama is just going to declare that the Taliban are too entrenched in Afghanistan for us to possibly prevail there - a prelude to a cut and run. Does any of this sound like a projection of strength? Of course not. America is projecting feel-good, hopey-changey weakness at every turn.

This was a message to Obama. Europe likes your style. You're giving us exactly what we wanted --- what we asked for. You're weakening the United States; for us, the key to peace.

Oh ... and don't forget the slap in the face for George Bush. Bush is in office for eight years. He responds strongly to the attacks from terrorist Muslims. He frees iraq from a ruthless dictator and his rapist sons. He projects American strength .. and Europe hates him for it. So ... the Nobel committee comes along and delivers a slapdown.

For those who define peace as an living free of threats to your natural right to be free ... this just isn't your day, is it?

Well ... at least this will give Newsweek a reason to put Obama on the cover again.

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I agree, my friend! I was pissed to find this out this morning! I feel like they gave him the prize because he is "not Bush"! Blah... This just makes me think much less of the Nobel prize now. Its like anybody can get it tomorrow - just give a talk at some big convention and say "peace"... Not that Obama couldn't win the Nobel prize - he might grow to be worthy of it, but now! so soon! after what?!?!!? What peace did he work on?!! Whatever... Congrats to him...

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your thoughts on this were almost identical to my wife's thoughts (and shes a registered Democrat)
i called my wife who was at work when i saw the news and told her. her initial reaction was "for what? what did her do in his 9 month term?"

later in the conversation she said "i think he got it just because he is not Bush"


what a disgrace.

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Amen! Nobel lost their credibility when they gave an award to Al Gore for his Mr. Rodgers land of make believe global warming. This should surprise no one. It is a kick in the balls to all the legitimate awards that came before them. Makes me want to puke. Barak Huessein is a disgrace and a traitor. On Interstate 70 by my house is a huge yellow and red billboard with the sickle and hammer. It says "How do you like your change Obama Nation? Your First and Second Ammendment Rights are in jeopardy. Prepare yourself now. Live Free or Die" I have been trying to get a good picture of it. Sorry for the long paragraph I am on my Blackberry.

He was President for 11 or 12 days when the nominations for the prize had to be in (February 1st). What does that tell you?

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jlzimmerman:

He was President for 11 or 12 days when the nominations for the prize had to be in (February 1st). What does that tell you?

Seriously??!!!! This just made me even more angry - thanks Zimmerman!

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jsnake:

Your First and Second Ammendment Rights are in jeopardy. Prepare yourself now.

more than just your first and second amendment rights...
4th amendment rights because there has been much talk within the health care bill of a social workers going into houses to see if you know how to raise your kid. (It's outlined in sections 440 and 1904 of the House bill (Page 838), under the heading "home visitation programs for families with young children and families expecting children.")

9th amendment (Protection of rights not specifically enumerated in the Bill of Rights.) the government is gobbling those up left and right.

10th amendment... The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people... health care...

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kuzi16:

THIS PAGE is where i made some comments that YOU(Kreig) may enjoy (about 10 posts down)


your thoughts on this were almost identical to my wife's thoughts (and shes a registered Democrat)
i called my wife who was at work when i saw the news and told her. her initial reaction was "for what? what did her do in his 9 month term?"

later in the conversation she said "i think he got it just because he is not Bush"


what a disgrace.

that's great. I also hope I never win the Noble Prize. Ever since Yassar Arafat won it, it hasn't meant a damn thing. Correction, it is now an award for the person who hates America the most. And YES, Obama does hate America, along with his wife.

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Obama hates America, along with his wife? Bush should have got the Nobel Peace Prize for going to war in response to 9/11? WTF dude?

I think you should look at the Nobel Committee's definition of Peace which also includes efforts to curb global warming.

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Have you heard ANY of his speeches over seas? His wife was quoted as saying "for the FIRST time ever she is proud of her country..." I stand by my comments.

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bigharpoon:

Obama hates America, along with his wife? Bush should have got the Nobel Peace Prize for going to war in response to 9/11? WTF dude?

I think you should look at the Nobel Committee's definition of Peace which also includes efforts to curb global warming.

How is implementing an energy tax saving the Earth? (Don't even get me started in how Obama is breaking another promise by implementing Cap & Trade because it raises EVERYONES taxes...but this is besides the point) Give me a break, there is no proof that Man is causing the Earth to get warmer...it's basic science...the sun moves in cycles. Hence why the polar ice caps on MARS are melting...and just so you know...it's not those two little rovers belting out CO2.

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Renaissance_Man:

jlzimmerman:

He was President for 11 or 12 days when the nominations for the prize had to be in (February 1st). What does that tell you?

Seriously??!!!! This just made me even more angry - thanks Zimmerman!

Sadly, yes.

"The Prize has to be seen as a political statement by the Nobel committee - meant to hail the change in U.S. policy represented by President Obama's approach to foreign policy as opposed to that of his predecessor George W. Bush," says Knoller, who notes that Mr. Obama took office less than 10 days before the Feb. 1 deadline for Nobel Prize nominations. "This is a Prize meant as an expression of hope that President Obama's speeches and policy statements will translate into actual accomplishments," adds Knoller. "The Prize is honoring an expression of aspirations for peace, rather the achievement of it."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/09/world/main5373311.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

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This was total Bulls**t! I couldn't believe it when I heard it and was even more upset when I found out about the nomination deadline. Not only that but you know it is jacked up when even fairly liberal sites like Time magazine and Slate are bashing his selection.

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bigharpoon:

Obama hates America, along with his wife? Bush should have got the Nobel Peace Prize for going to war in response to 9/11? WTF dude?

I think you should look at the Nobel Committee's definition of Peace which also includes efforts to curb global warming.

As of the nomination of President Obama by the Nobel comity, name one single thing he had actually done to curb global warming... Or even today for that matter.

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