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  • Puro's Rants

     09-23-2008, 5:16 AM

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    Ok, well I wrote a rant a while back and thought this might be a good place to blow off some steam from time to time so I'll just have a continuos thread of rants going. I used to have a great outlet for this when I hosted a radio show but now I work in Law Enforcement so poitical views are kept more bottled up and I'm REALLY about to explode.
    I have never in my life been so sick and tired of the F***ING media in this country! It doesn't matter which way you lean on the issues there is absolutly no way you can deny the total liberal media bias almost everywhere you look! CNN is by far one of the WORST offenders as always! I actually read the headline "GOP to Blame for Economic Meltdown" today in big bold letters on the screen. Now this was about a subtle as Morton Downey Jr on a 3 day scotch binge. If they aren't bashing the entire republican party then its the hourly public dismemberment or Sarah Palin. You would think she was Courtney F***ING Love to hear the media and the Hollywood "Deletes" talk about her. But anything negative said about Obama is just a "Lie from the Right Wing Propaganda Machine" that is the McCain Campaign. I have never in my life been so totally disgusted with what I see on TV. I always wonder why all the idiots are against us... then it becomes very clear why!
    Jason
    "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan
  • Re: Puro's Rants

     09-23-2008, 6:48 AM

    PuroFreak:
    Ok, well I wrote a rant a while back and thought this might be a good place to blow off some steam from time to time so I'll just have a continuos thread of rants going. I used to have a great outlet for this when I hosted a radio show but now I work in Law Enforcement so poitical views are kept more bottled up and I'm REALLY about to explode.
    I have never in my life been so sick and tired of the F***ING media in this country! It doesn't matter which way you lean on the issues there is absolutly no way you can deny the total liberal media bias almost everywhere you look! CNN is by far one of the WORST offenders as always! I actually read the headline "GOP to Blame for Economic Meltdown" today in big bold letters on the screen. Now this was about a subtle as Morton Downey Jr on a 3 day scotch binge. If they aren't bashing the entire republican party then its the hourly public dismemberment or Sarah Palin. You would think she was Courtney F***ING Love to hear the media and the Hollywood "Deletes" talk about her. But anything negative said about Obama is just a "Lie from the Right Wing Propaganda Machine" that is the McCain Campaign. I have never in my life been so totally disgusted with what I see on TV. I always wonder why all the idiots are against us... then it becomes very clear why!
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  • Re: Puro's Rants

     09-23-2008, 8:43 AM

    PuroFreak:
    Ok, well I wrote a rant a while back and thought this might be a good place to blow off some steam from time to time so I'll just have a continuos thread of rants going. I used to have a great outlet for this when I hosted a radio show but now I work in Law Enforcement so poitical views are kept more bottled up and I'm REALLY about to explode.
    I have never in my life been so sick and tired of the F***ING media in this country! It doesn't matter which way you lean on the issues there is absolutly no way you can deny the total liberal media bias almost everywhere you look! CNN is by far one of the WORST offenders as always! I actually read the headline "GOP to Blame for Economic Meltdown" today in big bold letters on the screen. Now this was about a subtle as Morton Downey Jr on a 3 day scotch binge. If they aren't bashing the entire republican party then its the hourly public dismemberment or Sarah Palin. You would think she was Courtney F***ING Love to hear the media and the Hollywood "Deletes" talk about her. But anything negative said about Obama is just a "Lie from the Right Wing Propaganda Machine" that is the McCain Campaign. I have never in my life been so totally disgusted with what I see on TV. I always wonder why all the idiots are against us... then it becomes very clear why!
    in a way i agree. But i have made mypeace with the media. I listen and watch only slanted media. I try for purely right or left opinion pieces. why? because then i can listen to them and know that they have nothing to hide. Like i said before in another thread, im ok with Rush and his Conservative agenda -because he is honest about pushing it. I am OK with Al Franken and his Liberal agenda -because he is honest about pushing it. If you listen to the stuff you know is tainted then you can not feel like you are being hosed because you have a filter on. you can filter out the crap. both of those people spew a bunch of crap, but im ok with that.

    CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and FOX NEWS all have agendas that they push. they all claim to be fair and impartial, but none of them are.
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  • Re: Puro's Rants

     09-23-2008, 6:50 PM

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    kuzi16:
    PuroFreak:
    Ok, well I wrote a rant a while back and thought this might be a good place to blow off some steam from time to time so I'll just have a continuos thread of rants going. I used to have a great outlet for this when I hosted a radio show but now I work in Law Enforcement so poitical views are kept more bottled up and I'm REALLY about to explode.
    I have never in my life been so sick and tired of the F***ING media in this country! It doesn't matter which way you lean on the issues there is absolutly no way you can deny the total liberal media bias almost everywhere you look! CNN is by far one of the WORST offenders as always! I actually read the headline "GOP to Blame for Economic Meltdown" today in big bold letters on the screen. Now this was about a subtle as Morton Downey Jr on a 3 day scotch binge. If they aren't bashing the entire republican party then its the hourly public dismemberment or Sarah Palin. You would think she was Courtney F***ING Love to hear the media and the Hollywood "Deletes" talk about her. But anything negative said about Obama is just a "Lie from the Right Wing Propaganda Machine" that is the McCain Campaign. I have never in my life been so totally disgusted with what I see on TV. I always wonder why all the idiots are against us... then it becomes very clear why!
    in a way i agree. But i have made mypeace with the media. I listen and watch only slanted media. I try for purely right or left opinion pieces. why? because then i can listen to them and know that they have nothing to hide. Like i said before in another thread, im ok with Rush and his Conservative agenda -because he is honest about pushing it. I am OK with Al Franken and his Liberal agenda -because he is honest about pushing it. If you listen to the stuff you know is tainted then you can not feel like you are being hosed because you have a filter on. you can filter out the crap. both of those people spew a bunch of crap, but im ok with that.

    CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and FOX NEWS all have agendas that they push. they all claim to be fair and impartial, but none of them are.
    I agree with you in a sense that yes, I respect what those kind of people do. They are very open about their views and you know what to expect. Rush, Franken, Hannity, Savage... They are there to appeal to a certain group. But it's when ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS and the rest expect all the rights a privliges of a nonbias media group then slant everything to fit their agenda. The Palin interview with ABC is a great example, they edited the footage of the interview to make her look bad and didn't do what is expected of them as a supposed "Credible" media source. That is where I become angry, because most people in the country don't take the time to research and learn the truth and just buy in to the mainstream media and daytime talk show crap that is spewed forth day in and day out...
    Jason
    "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan
  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-06-2008, 12:23 PM

    Hell, I like Bill O'Reilly. When people are being stupid, he let's them know they are. As for the liberal crap on the tv about "the war in Iraq", I ignore it because I've been in the intelligence community of the US Navy for all of my adult life and I'm currently in Iraq and know everything that drives some of these decisions that the US public isn't privy to. What really get's me though is that people actually buy into the slanted sh** they see on tv. For instance my mother has all of these conservative republican views, but wanted Hilary Clinton because "she likes what she had to say" I then asked her to have some of what she was smoking. Well I better stop now before I really get going.
  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-13-2008, 8:46 PM

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    This is a clip from a news story about a conversation between Barack Obama and a man who owns a plumbing company. The conversation took place on the campaign trail this week.
    "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed "more and more for fulfilling the American dream."
    "It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
    No wonder he is so interested in talking to Kim Jong Ill and Hugo Chavez... He is looking for tax plan advice!! This is Socialism plain and simple! There is no other word for this. I am not poor by any means, but I am in no way wealthy. My family does without a lot of things because we can't afford them and we do struggle, but I do not expect or even want assistance from the government. I work hard and am doing things to improve our situation and I am proud to support my family. It's INSANE!!! Thats like saying there are people on this site that can afford to order more cigars than I can so they should have to send me 2 or 3 smokes from every box they order. Hey... Maybe it isn't such a bad idea! haha
    Jason
    "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan
  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-13-2008, 9:17 PM

    a teacher in high school was teaching the class about communism. he was giving the theories on how it would work. Produce according to their ability and receive according to their need. they studied Marx and Lennon for a week and were told to study hard for a test at the end of the week. the test would be an essay test. The essay was to make an argument FOR communism. all the students did as told.
    when the tests were graded and handed back there were two grades:
    one in blue
    one in red.
    the teacher then explained that the blue score was a "capitalist" score and the red score was the "communist" score.
    to the the good students who worked hard and studied hard had a blue score in the 90+ range
    the decent students who studied but not as hard had a blue score of 80- 90
    the average students who either coasted, didnt study but were smart, or who studied hard but just didnt understand the concepts well got a score in the 70-80 range.
    the students that didnt study much if at all were 60-70
    the rest of them who didnt study at all and didnt care got even lower, some as low as a 20%

    there was a bell curve in the class. the two smallest groups were the top few and the bottom few. most were average or slightly above.

    the class average was a 72%. that was the score in red that everyone got.

    the majority of the class had a score higher than that but the few at the bottom were so low that the class average was brought down by this. most of the students were mad. the lowest scoring students were in the minority but were quite happy.

    the day after the tests were handed back the teacher asked the students with above the average score if they knew they would only end up with a 72% no matter how hard they studied would they have tried so hard. all of them said they wouldnt. ...this would only lower the average score more. this was the introduction into Capitalism.


    i hope when i have kids i can find a teacher like that.
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  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-13-2008, 9:24 PM

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    kuzi16:
    a teacher in high school was teaching the class about communism. he was giving the theories on how it would work. Produce according to their ability and receive according to their need. they studied Marx and Lennon for a week and were told to study hard for a test at the end of the week. the test would be an essay test. The essay was to make an argument FOR communism. all the students did as told.
    when the tests were graded and handed back there were two grades:
    one in blue
    one in red.
    the teacher then explained that the blue score was a "capitalist" score and the red score was the "communist" score.
    to the the good students who worked hard and studied hard had a blue score in the 90+ range
    the decent students who studied but not as hard had a blue score of 80- 90
    the average students who either coasted, didnt study but were smart, or who studied hard but just didnt understand the concepts well got a score in the 70-80 range.
    the students that didnt study much if at all were 60-70
    the rest of them who didnt study at all and didnt care got even lower, some as low as a 20%

    there was a bell curve in the class. the two smallest groups were the top few and the bottom few. most were average or slightly above.

    the class average was a 72%. that was the score in red that everyone got.

    the majority of the class had a score higher than that but the few at the bottom were so low that the class average was brought down by this. most of the students were mad. the lowest scoring students were in the minority but were quite happy.

    the day after the tests were handed back the teacher asked the students with above the average score if they knew they would only end up with a 72% no matter how hard they studied would they have tried so hard. all of them said they wouldnt. ...this would only lower the average score more. this was the introduction into Capitalism.


    i hope when i have kids i can find a teacher like that.

    Awesome point Kuzi! I hope my son has a teacher like that when he gets older too, but with the way things are in the academic world, I seriously doubt there will be any around.
    Jason
    "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan
  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-13-2008, 9:33 PM

    I love the board game Monopoly. I'm great at Monopoly -- ruthless. My wife refuses to play me in Monopoly. I remember when I was young, I always made my little brother play me in Monopoly. The most rewarding part of the game always came when I was swimming in wealth. However, I couldn't be stopped. Normally, when somebody lands on Boardwalk with a hotel, and it soaks all their money, that's supposed to be the end of the game.

    That's not how it worked for me. When my poor brother would roll into my line of hotels, and exhaust his resources, with all his properties mortgaged, I didn't want the game to end. See, I didn't yet have all the hotels and houses possible, and he still had some mortgaged properties. Also, there was still a lot of money in the box that didn't belong to either of us.

    So rather than let the game just end, and snuff him out, I'd buy his mortgaged properties for outrageous sums of money (how about I give you $5,000 for Baltic Avenue?). I tell you what... I'll give you a refund on you utility bill and I'll cut your railway fares in half. Of course, this only extended the game to his inevitable bankruptcy.. but that still wasn't enough. I needed to have everything. I'd waive his hotel fees until he had the money. I'd spot him some dough.

    If you've ever played against someone like me, it's not any fun. You see, my brother knew he had no chance, and he would eventually refuse to sell me his properties. I'd have to offer him quite a bit just to get him to play along. It was a delicate balance between total game domination and having him suddenly fly into a rage and throw the board across the room. That was the worst possible outcome for a greedy, anal-retentive perfectionist such as myself. I wanted the perfect game, and his broke ass wasn't about to stop me.

    So I'd feed him enough money to keep him happy while I grew my interminable wealth. Rebates, refunds, reductions in fees, waivers. I'd bail him out of jail just so he could keep hitting my properties. I loved it. Just sitting here thinking about it makes me smile.

    I love that game.
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  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-13-2008, 9:48 PM

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    I loved being the banker to skim money when making payouts. I guess it is a good thing that I didn't go into the banking industry. I might be on the news right now about a money laundering scheme. :)
  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-13-2008, 9:51 PM

    kuzi16:
    a teacher in high school was teaching the class about communism. he was giving the theories on how it would work. Produce according to their ability and receive according to their need. they studied Marx and Lennon for a week and were told to study hard for a test at the end of the week. the test would be an essay test. The essay was to make an argument FOR communism. all the students did as told.
    when the tests were graded and handed back there were two grades:
    one in blue
    one in red.
    the teacher then explained that the blue score was a "capitalist" score and the red score was the "communist" score.
    to the the good students who worked hard and studied hard had a blue score in the 90+ range
    the decent students who studied but not as hard had a blue score of 80- 90
    the average students who either coasted, didnt study but were smart, or who studied hard but just didnt understand the concepts well got a score in the 70-80 range.
    the students that didnt study much if at all were 60-70
    the rest of them who didnt study at all and didnt care got even lower, some as low as a 20%

    there was a bell curve in the class. the two smallest groups were the top few and the bottom few. most were average or slightly above.

    the class average was a 72%. that was the score in red that everyone got.

    the majority of the class had a score higher than that but the few at the bottom were so low that the class average was brought down by this. most of the students were mad. the lowest scoring students were in the minority but were quite happy.

    the day after the tests were handed back the teacher asked the students with above the average score if they knew they would only end up with a 72% no matter how hard they studied would they have tried so hard. all of them said they wouldnt. ...this would only lower the average score more. this was the introduction into Capitalism.


    i hope when i have kids i can find a teacher like that.
    That's a good teaching tool.

    A good extension would be to remove the artificial certainty in it. That is, the kids already knew how well they'd done on the test, before they were asked which grading system they preferred. This is like asking the already-wealthy whether they prefer a progressive income tax or a flat one.
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     10-13-2008, 11:02 PM

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    urbino:
    kuzi16:
    a teacher in high school was teaching the class about communism. he was giving the theories on how it would work. Produce according to their ability and receive according to their need. they studied Marx and Lennon for a week and were told to study hard for a test at the end of the week. the test would be an essay test. The essay was to make an argument FOR communism. all the students did as told.
    when the tests were graded and handed back there were two grades:
    one in blue
    one in red.
    the teacher then explained that the blue score was a "capitalist" score and the red score was the "communist" score.
    to the the good students who worked hard and studied hard had a blue score in the 90+ range
    the decent students who studied but not as hard had a blue score of 80- 90
    the average students who either coasted, didnt study but were smart, or who studied hard but just didnt understand the concepts well got a score in the 70-80 range.
    the students that didnt study much if at all were 60-70
    the rest of them who didnt study at all and didnt care got even lower, some as low as a 20%

    there was a bell curve in the class. the two smallest groups were the top few and the bottom few. most were average or slightly above.

    the class average was a 72%. that was the score in red that everyone got.

    the majority of the class had a score higher than that but the few at the bottom were so low that the class average was brought down by this. most of the students were mad. the lowest scoring students were in the minority but were quite happy.

    the day after the tests were handed back the teacher asked the students with above the average score if they knew they would only end up with a 72% no matter how hard they studied would they have tried so hard. all of them said they wouldnt. ...this would only lower the average score more. this was the introduction into Capitalism.


    i hope when i have kids i can find a teacher like that.
    That's a good teaching tool.

    A good extension would be to remove the artificial certainty in it. That is, the kids already knew how well they'd done on the test, before they were asked which grading system they preferred. This is like asking the already-wealthy whether they prefer a progressive income tax or a flat one.

    Salient point...it would be interesting to offer it before they knew their grades and see what played out. My guess is, the smart kids know they're smart and by and large, know they did well. So they wouldn't go for a commy grading system.
  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-13-2008, 11:08 PM

    I didn't go into it all, but, yeah, there's still some artificial certainty in it. This gets into the whole maximax vs. maximin strategy problem that game theorists talk about. John Rawls spent a lot of time on this in his writings on game theory and political philosophy.
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  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-14-2008, 12:21 AM

    Unfortunately the analogy doesn't work. The grades being awarded for hard work and smarter kids dont equate to earnings and taxes.
    I do agree that capitalism is the way to go, but to say that Obama's tax plan is socialization is just plain WRONG.
    Now if you were to say that he wanted to take over all the countries oil and use the profit from that to fund Oh Health Care or Welfare or any other social program now thats socialism.
    I think a better vision of socializing our economy is with this BAILOUT plan.
    Lets see, lets let private companies profit in a capitalist market place
    But when these companies make bad decisions and start going under at a record rate, lets socialize those losses to stem the tide of fearful investors

    Work called! They said if you dont come in on Friday, dont bother to come in on Monday! - Whoo hoo four day weekend!
  • Re: Puro's Rants

     10-14-2008, 1:28 AM

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    No Four, I'm afraid you are wrong. When you take the money from the wealthy and redistribute it to the rest of the country that is socialism my friend. That is pretty much the exact definition. Now what you were describing would be more along the lines of Fascism... Thats another story. Redistribution of wealth is socialism period.
    Definition from Dictionary.com reads:
    Socialism- Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
    Jason
    "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan
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