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Ken Light:Now what we have is a president who is a limp d!ck worthless piece of slow-acting, overly-analytical nonsense wrapped in a fast-melting candy-coating made of hope... Get him the hell out of there.
cabinetmaker:What color is the sky on her planet? Unemployment checks are a stimulus?? Funny, I always thought it was jobs... Happy 4th, unless you live on her planet, no independence there..
phobicsquirrel: cabinetmaker:What color is the sky on her planet? Unemployment checks are a stimulus?? Funny, I always thought it was jobs... Happy 4th, unless you live on her planet, no independence there.. Actually they do stimulate the economy, I mean rent gets paid, food is bought. Besides if your friends in the GOP actually voted for the bill to pass people would get their checks, but no they obstruct just like everything else. People who are out of work because of the crash and because hardly any private business is hiring. You can bash her and the dems all you want but at least they are trying (not too hard mind you) while your GOP leaders and reps are just stopping everything. Which is funny because they scream about the deficit and what.. they caused it.
wwhwang:Not only this, but Congress still has the right to give themselves raises every year...which they use every year.
fla-gypsy:Our liberal brothers on this forum will never get that taking money from one group of people and giving it to another is wrong.
kuzi16: fla-gypsy:Our liberal brothers on this forum will never get that taking money from one group of people and giving it to another is wrong.you are right. it is theft. if i have $20,000 and 19 people come up to me and say "we have no money can you give me some?" then i give them each $1000 it is charity. if i say no but they all take a vote and the vote is 19 to 1 that i give them my money under penalty of imprisonment it is still theft. they took things from me that i earned against my will. they will then say it was my "moral obligation" to give them the money that i earned and they did not. Provided i earned that money and created that wealth without violating the rights of others i have the right to do with it as i please. and getting a check for not working does not create wealth. its not about spending money. its about creating wealth. when you take from one part of the economy to give to the other, there is no net gain of wealth. there is movement of money. money and wealth are not the same thing. unemployment checks do not create wealth. JOBS create wealth. unemployment checks are analogous to taking water out of the deep end of the pool and dumping it in the shallow end and wondering why the pool isnt getting any deeper. it is a zero sum. however, when a company can hire someone to make something the thing that is created is wealth. i make gourmet chocolates with my wife. we take raw products that are worth very little, put them together in a way that no body else does, and sell them for more then the sum of the parts is worth. THAT is wealth creation and stimulus.
wwestern:...any time I can pay for housing and electricity for someone with a lincoln navigator it makes me feel righteous.
kuzi16: i make gourmet chocolates with my wife. we take raw products that are worth very little, put them together in a way that no body else does, and sell them for more then the sum of the parts is worth. THAT is wealth creation and stimulus.
kuzi16:they will then say it was my "moral obligation" to give them the money that i earned and they did not. Provided i earned that money and created that wealth without violating the rights of others i have the right to do with it as i please.
ENFIDL:While that'd be cool the sticks wouldn't be nearly as big. and we all know I like to smoke the biggest sticks