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Last post 03-21-2011, 3:10 PM by jlmarta. 67 replies.
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  • Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 10:53 AM

    While the internet is great for learning about cigars, how to smoke 'em, how to find new ones, etc - one thing it's not good at is teaching you to talk like you're not a noobie. In short, it fails at teaching a person how to pronounce their favorite brands. Case in point - I walk into my B&M and ask for an Oliva, Series O - store owner has no idea what I'm talking about. It took a few minutes until he figured it out - turns out I had been pronouncing it A-LI-VA, when it's actually pronounced OH-LEE-VA.

    So anyone else have any good stories, or just feel like sharing the proper pronunciation of some names that are typically mispronounced?



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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 11:01 AM

    Took me a while to figure out that CAO was an acronym. I kept saying "cow". Also, Tatuaje was tough to get the right accento on the right syllable. I think it's tat-tu-AH-hey. Partagas is funny too. I've heard that pronounced 10 different ways.......


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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 11:08 AM

    Pepin is pronounced Pep-een. I've also had trouble with Tatuaje and I'm sure I've pronounced CAO as "cow" more than once. At least I didn't pronounce Padron as pad-ron
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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 12:11 PM

    ljl
    Mine's 5 Vegas. I know this sounds dumb but my buddy and I keep arguing. He insists I should say cinco. I keep telling him if they wanted me to say cinco...they'd put cinco. Now every time I say "five" I keep waiting for someone over my shoulder to shout me down!
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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 12:34 PM

    lilwing88:
    Took me a while to figure out that CAO was an acronym. I kept saying "cow". Also, Tatuaje was tough to get the right accento on the right syllable. I think it's tat-tu-AH-hey. Partagas is funny too. I've heard that pronounced 10 different ways.......


    You're right..it IS tat-tu-AH-hey - - Spanish for 'tatoo'. And, of all the ways I've heard Partagas pronounced, I think PAR-ta-gus is the right one. But, hey, I've been wrong before....

    And 5 Vegas IS Cinco Vegas. I've been corrected enough times on that one that I now accept 'Cinco' as being correct. And CAO? It's the guy's initials - C. A. Ozgener but I haven't yet learned how to pronounce his last name.

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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 12:34 PM

    ljl:
    Mine's 5 Vegas. I know this sounds dumb but my buddy and I keep arguing. He insists I should say cinco. I keep telling him if they wanted me to say cinco...they'd put cinco. Now every time I say "five" I keep waiting for someone over my shoulder to shout me down!
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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 12:54 PM

    so answer me this is Ligero
    Li-GARE-oh
    or
    Li-HARE-oh
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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 1:02 PM

    dennisking:
    so answer me this is Ligero
    Li-GARE-oh
    or
    Li-HARE-oh
    Answer B.
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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 2:16 PM

    I was doing this with Avo Cigars. This was CCom's fault for a while because they had it listed for as AVO so I kept pronouncing it as an acronym. I still have trouble with it!!
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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 2:46 PM

    when I first started out, I had trouble saying Macanudo, LOL
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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 6:01 PM

    Well I found a couple things after looking around (I've seen better lists before).

    Fuente - Fuen-Teh
    CAO - See Aay Oh
    Tatuaje - Tattoo Ahh Hey
    5 Vegas - Sinko Vegas
    La Vieja Habana - La Vee Aay Ha Habana
    Camacho - Kah Ma Cho
    Cusano - Ku San Oh
    Avo - Ah Vo
    Carlos Torano - Carlos Tor Ahn Yo
    La Aurora 100 Anos - La Ah-Roar Ah See-En An Yos
    Padilla Miami - Pad dee ya Miami
    Padron - Pah Drone
    Partagas - Par Tah Gus
    Romeo y Julieta - Rome-ay-o ee Hoo-lee-eh-tah
    Anejo - Ahn-yay-ho
    Joya de Nicaragua - Hoy-ah-day-Nicaragua
    Ramon Allones - Ramone-ah-yone-ez
    Cabaiguan - kah-bei-gWAHN
    por larranaga - por la ron ya ga
    Palio - Pal-ee-oh
    Pepin - Pe-peen
    Xicar - Zy-car
    Illusione - Eh Loo-Zee-Own-EE
    Davidoff - Dah Vid Off

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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 6:15 PM

    In the case of Cusano, I think it's pronounced "Q-Sano' and I'll tell ya why.......If I remember correctly, Mike spells his last name Chiusano which I believe is a good ol' Italian name and the 'Chiu' part I think is pronounced like a "Q".

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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 6:44 PM

    I'm inconsistent on some of these, because I go back and forth between thinking I should pronounce them properly, and thinking it's a bit silly, since I'm not of Spanish descent, don't know Spanish, and because the English language is constantly borrowing words from other languages and Anglicizing them, anyway. (I once heard it said that English doesn't just borrow from other languages, it chases them up an alley and steals their wallet.)

    So, fer instance, I'll go as far as pronouncing Padron as "Peh-DROHN," but rarely as far as pronouncing Romeo y Julieta correctly, or saying "cinco" for 5 Vegas. And no trilling of r's. I draw the line at r-trilling. It works for some people; me, I just sound like a fathead.

    And now, we come to the Old Joke portion of our post:

    Mexia -- Meh-HAY-uh
    Dairy Queen -- DEH-ree Kween


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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 6:47 PM

    jlmarta:
    In the case of Cusano, I think it's pronounced "Q-Sano' and I'll tell ya why.......If I remember correctly, Mike spells his last name Chiusano which I believe is a good ol' Italian name and the 'Chiu' part I think is pronounced like a "Q".

    Marty

    The thing is, Chuisano intentionally changed the name for the company so that it would be easier for the public to pronounce. Either way, I think "Q-Sano" and "Ku-Sano" would be pretty equivalent when you actually verbalize them, wouldn't they?


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  • Re: Pronunciation

     03-09-2010, 6:49 PM

    urbino:
    I'm inconsistent on some of these, because I go back and forth between thinking I should pronounce them properly, and thinking it's a bit silly, since I'm not of Spanish descent, don't know Spanish, and because the English language is constantly borrowing words from other languages and Anglicizing them, anyway. (I once heard it said that English doesn't just borrow from other languages, it chases them up an alley and steals their wallet.)

    So, fer instance, I'll go as far as pronouncing Padron as "Peh-DROHN," but rarely as far as pronouncing Romeo y Julieta correctly, or saying "cinco" for 5 Vegas. And no trilling of r's. I draw the line at r-trilling. It works for some people; me, I just sound like a fathead.

    And now, we come to the Old Joke portion of our post:

    Mexia -- Meh-HAY-uh
    Dairy Queen -- DEH-ree Kween

    Lol this is a good point Urbi - I never say Cinco for 5 Vegas either, despite the fact that I know that's what it's "supposed" to be. As far as your version of Padron, I pronounce it the same way. Trilling r's, well I can't do that anyway, so I don't even worry about it lol..


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